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Today 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Njk570 View Post
Again......I didnt make the list! This was an old list from 2005 i believe. A lot has changed since then. There's a BOAT LOAD of car audio companies, but you all know as well as i do, majority of these people have never heard of a lot of those names. This list was meant for people that really didn't have any knowledge at car audio. I wouldn't recommend higher SQ and Competition brands to someone who just wants to get started on car audio. It might be a hobby they really are'nt into in the end. Best to work your way up from the bottom to the top in my opinion . I mean ive went to a very low end, Bazooka amp and a single 12" Pioneer woofer and i even thought that was amazing, and i slowly learned as i got older that there are much bigger and better things out there. Now i have 2 Rockford Fosgate t-2500 powering two audioque 18s....and im still not satisfied. ;]
Post a pic of your rig in the other thread about boxes! :)
Today 09:45 AM
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I agree, how can you call Boss entry level, that goes on the bad list and I've used some decent Pyle stuff before. List needs a little revision but for the most part it's not bad bad.
Because boss and pyle have always been entry level. Ask anyone hardcore in car audio for more than a decade. They will confirm. Pyle nor boss has ever been anything but for beginners that don't care or know anything about car audio.
Today 09:38 AM
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I disagree with Pyramid and Legacy being on the stay away list. I have had Alpine, Kenwood, Crunch, Pioneer, MTX,...... and currently have two 15" Kicker L7 solobaric subs behind a Boss amp. I have also had a couple Pyramid Legacy amps I'd put up against anything and the price was far better on them. They are great amps for those who don't have big cash or get all the discounts on gear.
Uuuuuhhhh bro, I've been in car audio since it became a thing in the 80s. Pyramid and legacy are pure and literal garbage. If you metered that pryamid amp that "you'd put against" any amp it would meter about 20% of the power it tells you it has. Sorry, just didn't want anyone believing what you are saying. No offense.
If you have a pyramid or legacy amp that say SAYS on it 1000W. Measure it with meters. You will find that your "1000W" pyramid makes about 140W before it goes to 1% thd which is basically pure distortion to the human ear. Not sure where you got your info about those brands, but they told you wrong brotha, pyramid and legacy have always been garbage. There's never been an era of time in car audio where they weren't.
Today 12:49 AM
alaskanzx5 Time alignment is all about sound imaging. The biggest part of sq is imaging.
Today 12:31 AM
freemind ^Things like such and time alignment makes a system great.
Yesterday 11:38 PM
alaskanzx5 It takes a lot more then those testing tools you mentioned. Those are just the start.
That can get you a clean install and distortion free.

You still have to account for dampening factor, imagine, and tons of time on an rta to get a truly flat bandwidth.

It takes years of doing it to actually achieve sound quality. Sq is not something the human ear can even determine. It takes the right testing tools to determine that.
Yesterday 08:28 PM
freemind
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Originally Posted by EMTurbo View Post
I disagree with Pyramid and Legacy being on the stay away list. I have had Alpine, Kenwood, Crunch, Pioneer, MTX,...... and currently have two 15" Kicker L7 solobaric subs behind a Boss amp. I have also had a couple Pyramid Legacy amps I'd put up against anything and the price was far better on them. They are great amps for those who don't have big cash or get all the discounts on gear.
An amp is essentially a gain block. The quality of the parts and design of said gain block is very important. There are distinct differences between Class, A, A/B, D, H, T, etc.

PPI made an amp for Pyramid many, many years ago. PPI also made my old beloved MTX Terminator MTA 225. Zed Audio made/designed many good budget brand amps. Again that was many years ago. I love REAL old school amps, not so called Old School amps that are 5 yrs old.

I agree that everything is in the install. But, unless you know how to use a DDM, Test CD and a Handheld or, benchtop oscilloscope, I doubt that your system sounds all that great. More than likely it's okay.
Yesterday 10:15 AM
EMTurbo I disagree with Pyramid and Legacy being on the stay away list. I have had Alpine, Kenwood, Crunch, Pioneer, MTX,...... and currently have two 15" Kicker L7 solobaric subs behind a Boss amp. I have also had a couple Pyramid Legacy amps I'd put up against anything and the price was far better on them. They are great amps for those who don't have big cash or get all the discounts on gear.
02-11-2013 10:39 PM
Njk570
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Originally Posted by RS-wagon View Post
well the equipment is just as good as the install. I have seen and heard the best money could buy sound like dog sh!t and cheap stuff sound great. It was the install.
I guess I am old school but I still run Alpine, JL Audio speakers and subs, PPI amps ( Art and older series only) and Audio Control processors. I do have some other stuff, US Amps ( Fl made stuff only) Kenwood. I have used this stuff for 20+ years in competition has done me right. even taking me to a SQ world championship.

I would however put Audiobahn in the stay away category, nothing but pure crap sold at pawn shops, flea markets and appliance stores.

But it is just my opinion.

Tim
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i agree, almost any equipment can sound good if done right.
And i agree as well. As i said on the first page of the thread. =]
02-11-2013 04:00 PM
alaskanzx5 i agree, almost any equipment can sound good if done right.
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