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11-26-2012 11:04 AM
hockeydoc33 This weekend I found the time to test a few things.

I unplugged the VCT Solenoid and ran with it unplugged.

As expected I got the P1380 Code for open or short on the VCT Circuit.

I did not get the P1383 code.

This was good news which I believe shows that the timing is correct.

Then i pulled out the VCT Solenoid and plugged the hole.

Figuring that this would give me no codes which it did until I drove it.

I once again got the P1383 for Advanced timing.

So does anyone know if I plug the holes leading to the Phaser would the VCT not adjust?

Also could this issue have something to do with my Camshaft Location Sensor?
11-20-2012 06:56 AM
hockeydoc33 Well I have had no issues with rotating the VCT.

Not really sure how to measure or adjust the oil pressure if there is a way at all?

I did decide to put it on Craigslist until I have time to fix it again.

http://southjersey.craigslist.org/cto/3418802167.html

I dont want to sell it but right now I am not sure if I want screaming yellow driveway art.
11-16-2012 10:17 PM
tukaniSVT The VCT should have a good amount of pressure for the Spring loaded feel. It would jump backwards, Paul.

Hmm ... maybe the VCT doesn't have enough oil or pressure in it ... just a thought to the code issue. Because on of our other local members had to have his belt re-timed several times (Thanks to SleepyBoy, Paul) but by the 4th-5th time it finally worked. The thought of having to build pressure comes to mind. Because Paul would re-time it correctly each time.

-Ray-
11-16-2012 09:02 PM
sleepyboy
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Originally Posted by Schroeder02 View Post
I never had an issue with doing it without the pin, I have a few cars brought to me out of time and was able to get them back in time. I also used the pin and had the timing be out, so I just stick with what works for me .

And I didnít really think there was a middle for the VCT the one I messed with Iím pretty sure was spring loaded. Maybe there VCT was bad?


I dunno if they are spring loaded. I know a local members (Raymond's) was and when we took the belt of it popped forward or backward I forget which direction. The other one I worked on that wasn't timed right due to them not checking TDC was easier to move but it also had all the oil in it taken out from replacing the VCT solenoid. It's spring action wasn't has strong but still needed to be held in place while putting the belt on or it would go one way or the other.
11-16-2012 06:46 PM
qweesy ill help
11-16-2012 12:36 PM
Schroeder02 I never had an issue with doing it without the pin, I have a few cars brought to me out of time and was able to get them back in time. I also used the pin and had the timing be out, so I just stick with what works for me .

And I didn’t really think there was a middle for the VCT the one I messed with I’m pretty sure was spring loaded. Maybe there VCT was bad?
11-15-2012 05:58 PM
sleepyboy I would never time it with out the pin, sorry I just feel very strongly about that. Our local group worked on a local members SVT and never used the pin. They ended up getting it very out of time. It took me 3 days of working on it and re timing it over and over and messing with the VCT gear before it finally wouldn't throw the code or feel boggy. I ended up have to move the VCT and try to set it in the middle of it's travel. After a couple of tries of that it worked. Believe me I was very tired of working on it after that not to mention how mad my wife was for leaving 3 days in a row. It can be done it just takes patience.
11-15-2012 12:35 PM
Schroeder02
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Originally Posted by hockeydoc33 View Post
I know the timing is spot on by using the timing tool with the pin.

What do you mean by tension in the timing belt?
Try timing it with out using the Pin. there are marks on the hermonic ballencer and block, also find top dead center the old school way.
it has worked for me on more then one ocation.
11-15-2012 09:35 AM
hockeydoc33
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Originally Posted by Indy'sexclusiveZx3 View Post
Live in a state that doesn't have inspections, JK thou how does the car run? Maybe think about a tune
Yeah my cousin is in Arkansas and he may buy it if I cant get it fixed.

Car bogs down on hard acceleration but once above 3000 rpms its smooth and fast.

That being said I have only driven it in this state so I have no reference to how a properly working SVT runs.
11-15-2012 09:33 AM
hockeydoc33
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Originally Posted by tukaniSVT View Post
When doing your timing belt you adjust your tensioner to get the belt nice and tight or loose for take off.

Well, on the Zetecs, there is a little window with a marker for the optimal spot for your timing belt to be tensioned. As you tightened the belt you will see the marker go to the window. When you turn on your car this shakes a bit and moves some on acceleration, but in idle, it should stay pretty close to the marker in the window.

You will be surprised how that little detail can make a difference.

Did you crank the engine by hand a couple of times and re-checked the timing was still in time after hand cranks?

-Ray-
I will recheck the tensioner this weekend.

The first time we cranked it twice and was good. Following the timing was spot on when hitting the pin so the timing was the same from Ford as it was when we did it original.

This leads me to believe it is either the VCT gear not properly adjusted or the cam positioning sensor is not working properly.
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