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05-15-2013 09:41 AM
s0B0Ta Ray, when it came to change the oil in my trans last year, i've spent hours searching for proper oil on this and other forums and guess what, all i got was arguments that this is better than that. So i decided to go to Ford and see what they have to say and ATF was it. 2 bottles and i was done.

As for my SVT and 6-7k daily, i just love the sound it makes from 2nd to 3rd and 4th when i get on the highway with my gutted cat pipe and open filter and pass all those new yorkers and jersyers on my way to home depot ;)
05-15-2013 09:22 AM
tukaniSVT That is what the Ford Manual says. Many of the older SVT owners knew this as well. And back in 04-05, we were all a bit shocked by the ATF in the trans. But if Ford says it, then Ford says it.

Eh, I don't push my SVT that much. I usually hang around 3-4K revs around town.

But I do push it at AutoX. So there's my fun times.

05-15-2013 01:56 AM
s0B0Ta Thanks Ray, many keep jumping into conclusions without digging in a little deeper.
So far, i did 3 SVTs and VCT is fine, no codes in, no codes out.

IMO, if people drive on regular oil, idle a lot and drive an SVT below 5k, then the VCT will eventually go on vacation; either from oil gunk build up or out of no usage.

My SVT get its share of 6-7k daily on Toms tune and it loves it. Plus, i always use full synthetic oil in the engine and Ford ATF in the trans.
Yes, Ford showed me a piece of paper with revised oils and SVT get ATF in the transmission and it works great.
05-14-2013 08:10 AM
tukaniSVT To the Duratec answer, in Europe the SVT or ST170 and 1st Gen RS (Also a Zetec Engine) was actually labeled a "Duratec".

Confusing yes, but that's how they labeled it.

So, yes the "Duratec" Label for the Vin5 engines is actually correct.

In the US, they changed the engine and labeled it Duratec. Shame on the people who did all of this naming back and forth.

Anyways, It's good to hear that you got your engine back together s0B0Ta. I have done my head as well when I bent my valves last year. But I didn't see this thread before.

As for your comment about being slightly off on the cams, since the SVT Focus is a interference engine, you should be careful when doing their timing. Can't really say that it's okay if the cams are off. Plus the VCT is a temperamental little guy. Sometimes, it just doesn't want to time correctly.

But again, glad to hear it worked out for you.

05-14-2013 01:58 AM
s0B0Ta This thread is about Engine Timing/Rebuild. Not about comparing Zetec to SVT.
And NO, SVT is NOT a Zetec, SVT is based on Zetec, so lets not confuse those two because if SVT was a Zetec, then we wouldn't have an SVT section in this forum or any other forum for that matter.

I did my research and found proper info about head gasket replecement. I did it and it works and thats about it. I shared my info with those who need it and if anyone has any specific trouble info about their rebuilt, PM me.
05-14-2013 12:53 AM
Originally Posted by s0B0Ta View Post
Sure, tell that to Mitchell.. They call it that way and i found everything i need under that name. And Zetec is Zetec, SVT is SVT. Just because the SVT bears the same engine block, it doesnt really make it much of a Zetec.

..and im glad i dont have that under my h00d!
Lol what? So you're saying that the svt motor isn't a Zetec at all? The only thing the svt has different compared to a stock Zetec is the vct, oil squirters, forged internals and oil cooler.

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05-14-2013 12:49 AM
Originally Posted by elsolo View Post
SVT is a Zetec with variable cam timing, not a duratec like the ST
Sure, tell that to Mitchell.. They call it that way and i found everything i need under that name. And Zetec is Zetec, SVT is SVT. Just because the SVT bears the same engine block, it doesnt really make it much of a Zetec.

..and im glad i dont have that under my h00d!
05-14-2013 12:01 AM
Originally Posted by s0B0Ta View Post
OK! I did a deeper search into Mitchell software and it turns out that Ford uses VIN 5 (SVT) as Duratec-ST. Here are the proper and actual torque specs and sequence using OEM TTY head bolts, NOT ARP bolts.

I'm sure everyone has seen these all over the forums, but for those that have regular Zetec engine, NOT SVT, please dont confuse these. These are ONLY for Focus SVT (Duratec-ST) as per 'Ford'.
SVT is a Zetec with variable cam timing, not a duratec like the ST
05-09-2013 11:07 AM
s0B0Ta This is how i did my timing:

Timing belt on and tensioned. Both cam sprockets loose.
Lock the crank at TDC.
Align both cams and lock them.

First step:
Hold the Intake cam with a wrench in place, tighten the sprocket by hand to 30 Ft Lbs of torque. Remove cam locking tool, using the wrench on the intake cam, rotate it towards the windshield slowly and gently no more than 1/4 turn until it hits a DEAD STOP. All oil within the gear should come out. Dont move the cam! If you didnt feel a dead stop, repeat above step.

Second step:
Now loosen the intake cam sprocket bolt and align the cam with the exhaust cam. Lock them and tighten sprockets. Intake to 80 and Exhaust to 55 Ft Lbs.

Now remove timing pin and plate (timing locking tools) and rotate engine by hand 4 crank revolutions, cams will make 2 and check if cams are aligned. If not, redo the first step above. Thats it, no codes, no power loss, runs like new.
05-09-2013 10:32 AM
s0B0Ta Life is about taking chances and i dont see for any reason for the ECU not to compensate for 1-2 degrees off on the cams. If it was off by more than 5 degrees, i'm sure i'd get a message from the ECU.

If anyone who gets those P1381 & P1383 codes, they should recheck Timing and invest in new VCT solenoid and a cam positioning sensor.
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