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11-03-2012 06:51 PM
whynotthinkwhynot
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these little cars with all their computers and such confuse me.
Again thank you, I will get the 05.
There are some things you should be warned against. Do not under any circumstances purchase and install an underdrive kit unless you understand how to properly time this engine. Ford has decided that it no longer needs keyways or keys in the crank to hold a pulley still. They use a diamond hard friction surface on the inside of the pulley that grips the crank's collar. There is no keyway. Timing is done by the use of some special tools that cost about $20, and you basically align the cams with a bar, and position the crank at TDC #1 where a little screw will line up with a hole in the crank. People have destroyed their engines trying to install underdrive kits on Duratec engines. These are simple power adders for other engines, but not these.
11-03-2012 04:38 PM
jetrinka 05. More suspension choices.
11-03-2012 04:03 PM
tjaz420 Definitely the '05. lower miles, and a manual trans is a must.
11-02-2012 06:52 PM
RRTAYLOR I have no idea. I dont even know what that is.
11-02-2012 06:51 PM
RRTAYLOR
Thank You

Thank you all very much for your input it is greatly appreciated. As I staed this is my first focus and I know nothing about these cars. I can rebuild an old El camino or mustang in my sleep. I weld power turbines for a living, but these little cars with all their computers and such confuse me.
Again thank you, I will get the 05.
11-02-2012 12:27 PM
Kevastator 05!!! Less miles is always better, and yeah the manual trans too
11-02-2012 10:50 AM
FocusedSlayer Does the 07 have the SAP package on it ?
11-02-2012 07:57 AM
boardgeneration Love my 05zx3 5 speed. No major problems yet. Did change motor mounts. Passenger side was destroyed.
Changing the alternator and upgrading the big 3 next week.
By next summer ill be installing a header n 2.5" exhaust. I think my exhaust mani has a crack in it.
I'd say go for the 05 for two reasons. Low miles as u stated and the MT is so fun to drive.
Just adding CAI makes it a bit more snappy too.
11-02-2012 06:10 AM
whynotthinkwhynot There are a few differences between the 05 and 07. 05 was the first year for the Duratec 2.0 engine used in both. If you'll look closely, the power steering pump reservoir is in a different position in the 05 than in the 07. One you can't see is that the 05 has a tubular exhaust manifold as compared to the 07 having a cast manifold. Both are what's called mani-cats since the first catalytic converter is built into the exhaust manifold.

The only problems are that the 05 had a larger hole in the TB so it would sometimes make the fuel/air mix too lean to start. This can be embarrassing, but causes no damage. What will happen is that you'll crank the engine, and it won't start the first time. This won't happen every time, but it will happen. Not all 05s experience this problem. What I do is crank for 1 sec, if it doesn't start, turn the key off, then crank again and it always starts immediately.

I'd get the 05 also, but remember- replacing a clutch in this car is not as inexpensive as, for example, a Chevy Cavalier. Our clutches use a dual mass flywheel that is actually 2 parts separated by a large spring. This takes out some of the harshness when the clutch engages the trans and engine, but it must be replaced when the clutch is replaced making the parts expensive for a clutch job. As you're going along you should save about $1200 somewhere just for parts. Figure about $500 for a clutch, $400 for a flywheel, $30 for flywheel bolts (very important), and $70 for a slave cylinder. Another $200 is in there for misc like brake fluid and a vacuum bleeder for bleeding the clutch down. Single mass flywheels are available to replace the DMF if you want something that might not have to be replaced every time. If anyone tells you that the DMF doesn't have to be replaced, then you should seek another mechanic. Research DMFs online, and you'll see what the truth is.
11-02-2012 03:45 AM
zetecDon Hands down get the 05.
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