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12-11-2012 12:22 PM
Hans104 I have a 2003 ZTW 5-spd with 255,000 miles I bought new and it has been one of the best cars I ever owned. Having an extra foot of cargo length, no taper in the hatch or roof(like the current hatch) AND a flat load floor with no lift-over made it much more useful than the Escort GT it replaced, it gets decent mileage and has been very reliable. It's not dead yet either as it will now serve as a winter beater and 2nd car as it still runs well. It was always fun to drive especially after I added the SVT header and re-timed the cams for more top end HP.

I just couldn't bring myself to buy an SUV or crossover so I bought a 2013 SE hatchback because that's as close as I could get to the wagon. The dealer said he regularly gets inquiries about Ford bringing back the Focus wagon and believes he could sell every one he gets.

Mike G
12-11-2012 11:39 AM
Just Tom Msg to Ford: Build it and they will come.
12-21-2011 09:04 PM
st falcon alota people say the lines of the hatch are better, but I am also a believer in this wagons lines...
12-21-2011 08:45 PM
demaille Yes, the lines. I really love the lines on this wagon.
12-21-2011 08:38 PM
Shade-010 I think the Wagon looks better then the Hatch... love the sedan taillights in it and I think it has smoother lines.
12-21-2011 05:02 PM
st falcon Well, Chevy is making a (for europe, for now) Cruze wagon, so maybe our odds will go up too...
12-21-2011 12:36 PM
cobie56 I agree with you... while no one likes to pay alot for gasoline, it is ridiculously cheap in this country... Even Mexico and Canada, both self sufficient in oil, gasoline costs more due to higher taxes.
At least dedicated higher fuel taxes will pay for much needed infrastructure projects unless the congress gets their greedy soiled hands on it.


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Cobie makes too much sense for the government.

The car companies are building SUVs and big trucks because that's what sells. SUVs and trucks (along with shedding contacts and screwing bondholders) are responsible for Chrysler and GM getting back to profitability. CAFE isn't just about fuel economy, it's about protecting the margins on the three most profitable vehicles/platforms of the last 20 years, F-150, Silverado, and Ram. That would be a combined $108 billion or around $5.5 billion a year of pre-tax revenue. If anyone wants to get the taxpayer money back from GM and Chrysler, lets hope they sell enough trucks and horrible SUVs to make money, and perhaps build compact wagons. Remember, in the brave new auto world, it's about platform profitability, not necessarily individual model profitablity.

But......The best way to shift towards more fuel effiecient vehicles by changing consumer behavior is simple. What is the number one cost of owning a car? Fuel! Raise that Fedreal gas tax and have the funds only fix our infastructure and pay down our debt. Wait, that makes too much sense too.
12-21-2011 11:14 AM
bball40dtw
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perhaps if the gov't required vehicles of 'like usage' to have the same level of gas mileage we'd see fewer (or the demise of?) SUVs. The current and proposed CAFE standards are idiocy that only gov't can manufacture. Let's face it, most folks don't use SUVs for their intended purpose but simply as large truck-like station wagons (estate cars?) If SUVs were required to have same mileage standards as passenger cars (for that IS what they are) then companies would be forced to make SUVs attain better mileage, not make them at all, or make them with performance so dismal no one would buy one. Then folks would flock to wagons as they did in the 50's and 60's. With the exception of sitting higher in a SUV, a wagon can do everything a SUV can and handle better w/ better gas mileage.
Cobie makes too much sense for the government.

The car companies are building SUVs and big trucks because that's what sells. SUVs and trucks (along with shedding contacts and screwing bondholders) are responsible for Chrysler and GM getting back to profitability. CAFE isn't just about fuel economy, it's about protecting the margins on the three most profitable vehicles/platforms of the last 20 years, F-150, Silverado, and Ram. That would be a combined $108 billion or around $5.5 billion a year of pre-tax revenue. If anyone wants to get the taxpayer money back from GM and Chrysler, lets hope they sell enough trucks and horrible SUVs to make money, and perhaps build compact wagons. Remember, in the brave new auto world, it's about platform profitability, not necessarily individual model profitablity.

But......The best way to shift towards more fuel effiecient vehicles by changing consumer behavior is simple. What is the number one cost of owning a car? Fuel! Raise that Fedreal gas tax and have the funds only fix our infastructure and pay down our debt. Wait, that makes too much sense too.
12-21-2011 10:35 AM
cobie56 perhaps if the gov't required vehicles of 'like usage' to have the same level of gas mileage we'd see fewer (or the demise of?) SUVs. The current and proposed CAFE standards are idiocy that only gov't can manufacture. Let's face it, most folks don't use SUVs for their intended purpose but simply as large truck-like station wagons (estate cars?) If SUVs were required to have same mileage standards as passenger cars (for that IS what they are) then companies would be forced to make SUVs attain better mileage, not make them at all, or make them with performance so dismal no one would buy one. Then folks would flock to wagons as they did in the 50's and 60's. With the exception of sitting higher in a SUV, a wagon can do everything a SUV can and handle better w/ better gas mileage.
12-21-2011 10:02 AM
bball40dtw I'm with everyone in hoping that we get a Focus wagon. A Fusion wagon would be great as well, especially since both the Focus and Mondeo have existing wagon versions. I would also buy either one. However, I don't know if my wife would pick a Focus wagon over an Escape. She already wants an Escape to replace our Focus Titanium, partly because she wants to kill MFT with fire.

Here's to hoping there is a Focus wagon besides the C-Max or Escape at Cobo. I'll take mine with the 1.6T and a manual thank you, and I don't care if it costs 27K.
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