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Old 08-14-2012, 05:57 AM   #1451
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I am using S more and I will have to say it is more likely to be in the right gear when you need to go but it still has enough hiccups for me to say I wish it would sense throttle input better.
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Old 08-14-2012, 06:43 AM   #1452
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I am using S more and I will have to say it is more likely to be in the right gear when you need to go but it still has enough hiccups for me to say I wish it would sense throttle input better.
Exactly.. If the old school method of a kickdown linkage can select the proper gear, Why can't the new computer software do it by the throttle position??
It would seem simple enough since the pedal is no longer a mechanical item. It is just a variable potentiometer that operates a servo motor. Use the output voltage from the pedal to determine downshifts as well as the manifold vaccum. Sometimes you cant build a better mouse trap.
Yes the car is fun to drive in S mode and zip around like a little hot rod but,,
my commute to work everyday which is what i bought it for, doesn't warrant speeding around town.
Driving in D mode, IN MY OPINION, is terrible.

Perhaps the few uf us that are unhappy, have a mis adjusted accelerator pedal, and the ford mechanics are not aware, thinking it is the DTC complaint????
Just thinking outloud.
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Old 08-14-2012, 06:47 AM   #1453
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I am using S more and I will have to say it is more likely to be in the right gear when you need to go but it still has enough hiccups for me to say I wish it would sense throttle input better.

Agreed!. I would say it seemed to me like the prior update you could accelerate with a light foot. Meaning you didn't have to have it floored but instead could roll through a few gears with just a light pressure on the gas pedal and it would only shift sooner if you actually let up on the gas. The first thing I noticed after my reprogram that it seems to want to get into the tallest gear as soon as possible. Even while accelerating (Non-floored) it will shift even before it needed too and its usually then where I accept the fun is over. LOL

I can only hope another update happens soon that will resolve these issues.

I should also mention too that if I drive the car like an old lady, it does seem to be fine and the symptoms above aren't really an issue. I suspect because if I'm really not trying to accelerate out of turns and just lugging along trying to drive as conservative as possible then no problems usually. Perhaps thats what Ford was trying to achieve with the latest update. I just wish S mode for me would hold the shift points a bit higher.
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Old 08-14-2012, 06:53 AM   #1454
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Amen on that. I would like to think it is a programing or software issue but is seems there are others with the same that are not experiencing any problems. So is my car haunted?
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:11 AM   #1455
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Amen on that. I would like to think it is a programing or software issue but is seems there are others with the same that are not experiencing any problems. So is my car haunted?
It could be haunted, but it could also be programing, software, or hardware. I've had issues with all three. After the replacement of the clutch packs I don't have the shudder or unresponsive throttle.
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Amen on that. I would like to think it is a programing or software issue but is seems there are others with the same that are not experiencing any problems. So is my car haunted?
Unfortunately there are many people having much different experiences with the same software. For some reason the exact software/hardware interaction can result in myriad different results. For example after 12B37 the 6th gear shift point changed for me and one other poster on here that I know of, but most other people say their shift point didn't change. Why??? It's the same software!!!

I'm beginning to wonder if the engineers have taken this adaptive learning way too far. Why can't all cars just come with the same, set-in-stone programming that never changes over time. That way everyone would have the exact same driving experience. Barring a serious hardware problem of course.
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I'm beginning to wonder if the engineers have taken this adaptive learning way too far. Why can't all cars just come with the same, set-in-stone programming that never changes over time. That way everyone would have the exact same driving experience. Barring a serious hardware problem of course.
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One calibration procedure for the computer to learn the clutch engage points and be done with it. I can't stand driving my car now after this "recall".
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Old 08-14-2012, 12:04 PM   #1458
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rp3583, next time you buy a car, test drive it and get the most of the information possible about it. I am sure you didn't do this when buying your Focus, so blame yourself for your stupidity, not everyone else.
Try telling that to all the salesmen who tell customers "it drives just like an automatic". When customers ask questions, then they are not as stupid as you want them to be.

You do raise a good point, but in case the people you're responding to don't respond, it is possible they asked...

And the salesmen are still human, incapable of error along with everyone else...
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I was so many times "the stupid", you cannot imagine how embaressed I am about this.
But since some time, I decided to change this and never buy what ever anyone sells without double checking. And a new car is not something you buy after 15 minutes of dealer's talk, IMO. Not even after 30 minutes, nor 45. They are salesmen, so who think they will speak also about the not that good things, they live in Lalaland. Internet is best for finding the information about what you want and Google is simple to use. Rant closed.
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I drive mine in S mode, selectshift 90 percent of the time, except on the open highway.

My feeble brain is still smarter than any software programming Ford has to offer with this vehicle to date. The auto downshifting in S mode when tapping the brake on steep inclines is ridiculous, sometimes revving the engine to over 6K on its own, when just a little brake is needed. This is in S mode, with no selectshift intervention, letting it do its thing.

Other than quirks I may drive-around with the DCT, I absolutely love this car. It's a shame that the evolution of the DCT may take a few more years to comb and groom, before it becomes the game changer I know it is capable of. I'd be ecstatic if they left the computer control castrated in S mode, and just have selectshift as its option only.
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