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Old 09-23-2013, 03:45 PM   #161
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RVC (rear view camera) only came with the self parking system system.
According to this -

http://www.ford.com/cars/focus/trim/...edan//viewall/ - it's part of group 300A - which is the standard build package for a Titanium.

However, if you look at Build & Price - http://bp3.ford.com/2014-Ford-Focus?...hooseYourPath/ - under Park Assist, it says "Park Assist COMES with a Rear View Camera" - which is technically true since you can only get PA on a Titanium and the TI already has it.

Did you really expect truth in advertising?
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Old 10-11-2013, 04:46 PM   #162
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I want to replace the speakers but I had a question regarding the RMS power necessary for use with the stock unit. I was looking at the Polk Audio DXi650 and the DXi651. The only real difference is the RMS/Peak power rating at 100w (200 peak) and 60w (180 peak) respectively. I would think the 60W rms/ 180 peak of the DXi651 would be sufficient. What say you guys?
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I want to replace the speakers but I had a question regarding the RMS power necessary for use with the stock unit. I was looking at the Polk Audio DXi650 and the DXi651. The only real difference is the RMS/Peak power rating at 100w (200 peak) and 60w (180 peak) respectively. I would think the 60W rms/ 180 peak of the DXi651 would be sufficient. What say you guys?
The peak power rating only tells you how much power the speaker can handle before it blows. The sensitivity tells you how loud it will be for a given amount of power. The Polks have a sensitivity of 92 db at 1 watt, which is quite good. The speakers will probably be at least as loud as the stock speakers. Your stock radio only puts out about 5-7 watts per channel.
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According to this -

http://www.ford.com/cars/focus/trim/...edan//viewall/ - it's part of group 300A - which is the standard build package for a Titanium.

However, if you look at Build & Price - http://bp3.ford.com/2014-Ford-Focus?...hooseYourPath/ - under Park Assist, it says "Park Assist COMES with a Rear View Camera" - which is technically true since you can only get PA on a Titanium and the TI already has it.

Did you really expect truth in advertising?
But that is for the 2014. I have a 2012 with everything but the self parking & winter packages.
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I have the 6 speaker Sync system btw.

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The peak power rating only tells you how much power the speaker can handle before it blows. The sensitivity tells you how loud it will be for a given amount of power. The Polks have a sensitivity of 92 db at 1 watt, which is quite good. The speakers will probably be at least as loud as the stock speakers. Your stock radio only puts out about 5-7 watts per channel.
So I think with frequency response and sensitivity being the same I will go for the cheaper, 651s. I was just wondering if there would be an issue with the stock unit driving these.
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Old 10-11-2013, 09:32 PM   #166
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So I think with frequency response and sensitivity being the same I will go for the cheaper, 651s. I was just wondering if there would be an issue with the stock unit driving these.
I have Infinity Reference 6502ix speakers in all four doors, which are rated for 60W RMS (180 Peak), and have a sensitivity of 93db. They are fine with the stock head unit driving them, although I want to put in a small amp to deliver 45W RMS per channel. Def. not needed though.
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Excellent. That's what I wanted to know!
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Old 11-19-2013, 12:47 PM   #168
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I have Infinity Reference 6502ix speakers in all four doors, which are rated for 60W RMS (180 Peak), and have a sensitivity of 93db. They are fine with the stock head unit driving them, although I want to put in a small amp to deliver 45W RMS per channel. Def. not needed though.
How much of an improvement over stock are these speakers?
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Did you see the pics in the start of the thread?

Compared to foam surrounds and dual-cone paper speakers?

Pyle or Soundstorm would be maybe 3-5x better than stock, Infinity 10-15x ???
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How much of an improvement over stock are these speakers?
It's been a while since I've heard the stockers now, so it's hard to say. I know there was definitely a noticeable improvement over the stocks in both response and clarity. I am looking at getting an SPL meter, so I could probably do an SPL chart between my car and a friends 2012. That won't be for some time though.
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