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Old 02-03-2017, 08:20 PM   #21
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This was extreme stops, ie: someone swerves into your lane but they are oncoming...I was glad to not have it kick in on ice because many other ABS cars, while sliding on ice the whole car chatters like crazy and doesn't help at all.
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Doesn't matter what your skills are,if you are slamming the brakes in a straight line ABS will stop you in a shorter distance than without and if you hit ice ABS does allow for much better steering control thus is why we have it.

Be careful disabling a safety device since if you are in an accident and an investigator is trying to determine fault they can look at your vehicle and if you yanked a fuse or something similar to disable a safety device you can be held liable.
My friend is an adjuster/investigator for Amica and they teach them what to look for.
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Doesn't matter what your skills are,if you are slamming the brakes in a straight line ABS will stop you in a shorter distance than without and if you hit ice ABS does allow for much better steering control thus is why we have it.
Ron, thats my point, while I cannot confirm 100%, it sure didn't feel like ABS was kicking in at all, or at least this would be the first ABS equipped car that I was not able to feel it working
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Even when it's not winter and you can wait for a snow/ice covered parking lot to test ABS on at a safe/slow speed, finding a wide gravel shoulder top put two wheels on to see what happens when braking is usually not difficult.

I know it depends on locality, but something like that should be avail. for a quick & safe test.

Two wheels on a poor surface makes the best demonstration, otherwise a slippery surface for all where it's safe to attempt a lock up.
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Exactly Sailor...we have snow packed on some roads..then rain...then the soaked snow froze and it was solid ice..I was driving on this with snow tires and it was a slight decline..eveytime I stopped..the focus was sliding on the ice for a foot or two...did not feel any pulsations or vibrations at all...abs was enabled, traction control as well..was suprised because other cars while brakes applied and sliding would be chattering.
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I'd be happy with that.

For the speed & conditions it's better than an obvious intervention.

BUT it would prob. be a good idea to test it more thoroughly at a somewhat higher speed where safe to do so - just to make sure it's working and you know how it feels when it does.
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Doesn't matter what your skills are,if you are slamming the brakes in a straight line ABS will stop you in a shorter distance than without
That's the thing..... people with driving skills don't slam on the brakes. so..... kind of an invalid point right there.


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Even when it's not winter and you can wait for a snow/ice covered parking lot to test ABS on at a safe/slow speed, finding a wide gravel shoulder top put two wheels on to see what happens when braking is usually not difficult.

I know it depends on locality, but something like that should be avail. for a quick & safe test.

Two wheels on a poor surface makes the best demonstration, otherwise a slippery surface for all where it's safe to attempt a lock up.

Sometimes, locking up the wheels is a good thing. For every day driving and 90% of drivers, sure I agree it's a bad idea to disable ABS.

But for people who know what they are doing and enjoy doing more with their vehicles having the ability to lock up the wheels when on a loose surface can be good. It lets the tires dig into that surface, build up a mound of gravel/snow in front of the tire and sometimes it actually slows you down faster than ABS would.

rally cross is one of these situations where it's very beneficial to not have ABS or traction control. I can get around the backroads much faster with ABS/traction control 100% disabled. Letting the car slide when It needs to, to maintain speed etc.
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^^^ You're taking that comment of mine all out of context.

FFhb13 is unsure if HIS ABS system is working at ALL, and needs to test it adequately to prove it's function - or lack of it - as well as how it does act when engaged.
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That's the thing..... people with driving skills don't slam on the brakes. so..... kind of an invalid point right there.
I was speaking of the situation where you have no choice but to slam on the brakes like somebody pulling out in front of you or a sudden stop. I've never had ABS be a hinderance and never turned it off myself in any racing events I've competed in during such as road course or autoxing.
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