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Old 04-24-2016, 11:41 AM   #1
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Do you want Turbo Engine or DCT problems?

Ford has some competition. The 2017 Chevy Cruz hatchback looks a lot like our Focus. It has 153 HP and 177 torque. It comes with a 1.4 turbo engine and normal automatic transmission. The gas mileage for 2016 Cruze with that engine and automatic is 26 city and 39 highway. What is the reliability of these micro turbo engines? Instead of shuddering problems we will have coolant loss problems.


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Neither. But if i had to choose. The coolant lost issue can be fixed sooner or later.

The dct on the other hand is still a dct at the end of the day.

So ill pick the Cruze.
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Old 04-24-2016, 04:28 PM   #3
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I am not so sure coolant loss problems are fixable. I have read some horror stories about problems with the 1.6 engine in the Escape. People have taken them in multiple times for same problem and Ford tells them it doesn't know where it's leaking from. Some people have gotten brand new engines. Would like to hear the experience of ecoboost owners of Focuses.
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I have almost 13k miles on my 2015 ecoboost focus, and I swear I have lost some coolant. Maybe half an inch in the reservoir. No clue as to where it has gone, its not in the oil and my car never has any kind of smoke coming out of exhaust. Could be losing some during high rev's due to pressure.
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Old 04-26-2016, 09:34 PM   #5
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I am not so sure coolant loss problems are fixable. I have read some horror stories about problems with the 1.6 engine in the Escape. People have taken them in multiple times for same problem and Ford tells them it doesn't know where it's leaking from. Some people have gotten brand new engines. Would like to hear the experience of ecoboost owners of Focuses.
No issues with my 2015 Focus 1.0. I took it for an oil change the other day and the reserve tank was boiling like crazy when they opened the hood. (Normal from what I've read) Once it settled down, it was between min and max so good to go. 29K on the car and zero coolant loss.

28K on the 2014 Fiesta 1.0 and no issues either. Mind you both cars are true highway kings so that really does help a lot with many issues I think. I took a ride from Virginia into Washington, DC in rush hour traffic the other week and couldn't believe how bad those roads beat up the car!! It was absolutely terrible! Doing that on a daily basis for sure will wear a car out much quicker. Plus wear out the driver! Can't imagine that commute on a daily basis!! Just brutal.

BTW I rented a 2016 Ford Fusion 1.5 Ecoboost the other day for a 1000 mile road trip. VERY impressed with the car. Had the Sport package so was well optioned. It was quite a bit bigger than the Focus inside. Very comfortable. I could have gone 700 or 800 miles in a day with no problems, whereas I usually keep it to 600 miles max in the Focus. When I got back to the rental place I hopped in the Focus and thought "damn this car is cramped". When I got home and jumped into the Fiesta the next day I thought "damn this car is absolutely claustrophobic"!! A world of difference between the 3 cars. My ONLY beef with the Fusion is the MPG. I set it on 70mph cruise control and never went above 36.9 mpg's on the computer. I was hoping it would creep up above the Government standards like both the Focus and for sure the Fiesta do at 70mph on cruise control but didn't happen. Add in a few wot passes and it really dropped down to 30. A much heavier car so I guess to be expected. Nice car for sure though! Oh yes, there's nothing wrong with the auto in the Fusion. Very nice and smooth. Also noticed on Fusion forums a lot of people not getting great mpg's on their cars. Not surprising.

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i like the new shape of the cruze, BUT, i would ONLY get one IF they bring the Eruo trim engines too. over in the UK there is a 200hp turbo version as well. kinda like how in the UK there is a 1.5L turbo focus with 180hp as well.
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i like the new shape of the cruze, BUT, i would ONLY get one IF they bring the Eruo trim engines too. over in the UK there is a 200hp turbo version as well. kinda like how in the UK there is a 1.5L turbo focus with 180hp as well.
Doubtful. We usually don't get the really good/fun stuff compared to what Europe and Australia get. Not sure why. I assume emissions, crash standards etc. I'm shocked we're getting the Fusion Sport here. Damn cool!!
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i like the new shape of the cruze, BUT, i would ONLY get one IF they bring the Eruo trim engines too. over in the UK there is a 200hp turbo version as well. kinda like how in the UK there is a 1.5L turbo focus with 180hp as well.
The Buick Verano turbo should have a 250/260 horse ecotec. I'd roll a Buick GS 6spd.
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Old 04-26-2016, 10:45 PM   #9
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The Buick Verano turbo should have a 250/260 horse ecotec. I'd roll a Buick GS 6spd.
Haha I was semi close to buying a brand new 2014 Buick Verano turbo manual still on the lot a several months ago. We were going back and forth on price for a bit. I was an out of town buyer 2000 miles away so it wasn't going very well and I gave up. It was finally marked down $11k to $21k and sold asap. I never thought it would sell at their original asking price I was dealing with. Once I didn't see it on Cars.com I called the dealer and they said FINALLY they got rid of it, took a total bath and would never order a manual again. Nice car though for sure. An absolute STEAL at $21k fully loaded.

There's another one out there 2014 manual turbo as well but that dealer won't go down $11k.....YET. I'm keeping an eye on that one though. It sucks, once they know you're interested, they won't go that low.
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I would be very cautious owning a GM compact. Also, the Cruze sedan is cramped compared to the Focus and the price was much higher.
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