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Old 09-01-2015, 01:02 AM   #81
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I just had the limp mode kick in while on the interstate with cruise control on. I have about 50K miles and just found this thread. No other problems with this before. Is it best to go ahead and add the loom? I felt behind the harness and it didn't feel worn, but I did get the can't accelerate for anything in any gear symptom like a lot of others in the thread referencing the TSB.
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Thanks for the heads up!!

It's a sad world we live in when we have to be concerned about a tech installing simple split loom on a harness....
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I just had the limp mode kick in while on the interstate with cruise control on. I have about 50K miles and just found this thread. No other problems with this before. Is it best to go ahead and add the loom? I felt behind the harness and it didn't feel worn, but I did get the can't accelerate for anything in any gear symptom like a lot of others in the thread referencing the TSB.
I don't suppose it will hurt. However I've had the limp mode thing a long time ago, and I don't have any wear on my wires either. So possibly something else causing it.
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The dealer was unwilling to do the TSB for me citing that they do not do things proactively, but essentially only if a problem arises.

I went and purchased some 1" split loom and will be doing the TSB myself when the car is cool.
I just called the dealership, and the lady didn't know what she was talking about really (by her own admission) but said it was unlikely they'd do anything unless the car is acting up but would have a service advisor call me. Though the dealership was great when my '12 DCT was acting up, I doubt they'll do what SHOULD be done on this '14 manual. Why in tarnation would a car company want you to wait for something to happen when such a fix is so cheap and easy and could be done while the car is getting an oil change.

Amusingly, before I could go look at the car, I checked my window sticker and my car was born exactly on 2/19/14, though I understand those dates have been found to be meaningless. Cursory inspection shows the harness is not done properly, fairly tight, but seems undamaged with some room between. But at 37xxx and change, I want to make sure this doesn't become an issue down the road.
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Old 09-01-2015, 05:04 PM   #85
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Simple answer is that no company wants to do a recall to fix ALL of an item unless necessary.

Honestly, this tsb would still exist even IF they "repaired" all of the cars (inspect and add chafe protection) since there still remains the chance of future damage in that area, even if less likely once added protection is in place.

Remember what a tsb is, a note on a suggested possible fix IF certain symptoms are present. In this case a note that wire harness problems in a certain area has been seen on some and the suggestion to check there, repair and add protection, IF a problem is seen.

Not every possible repair ends up listed as a tsb., one like this is useful to techs. as it otherwise wouldn't be a first guess when faced with the symptoms described.


Proactive check and adding protection is easy for an individual, unless a number of warranty problems are seen by a manufacturer a recall isn't likely. Tsb's are useful to Dealers and customers by reducing diagnostic/repair time, particularly when a diagnosis isn't obvious or special repair procedures are useful.


Every manufacturer can have a different version of service info. communication, some use a "Service Bulletin" method for suggestions/hints that they'd like all techs. to read in addition to the tsb's that are often read only in reference to a certain vehicle.

Haven't seen info. on Ford using that system, but they have another level called "Field Service Action" above the tsb level that authorizes certain repairs/updates to specific vehicles.

I would think the proactive suggestion that's been made here would be added as a FSA if they had enough reports of wiring harness problems in this area. Authorized "fix" when vehicles in for service.

And there lies the difference between tsb and FSA. One is a suggested possible repair for a particular problem while the other is an authorized action when appropriate (paid for by Ford). Tsb's in general don't affect warranty coverage while FSA's generally add specific coverage. Clutch & TCM extended warranties are a couple examples of FSA's that apply to many MkIII Focus models.
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Old 09-03-2015, 07:09 PM   #86
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They don't have to do a recall necessarily. A happy medium would simply to try and correctly spec the car when it is in for some service or some variation on that, OR do it if the customer requests it. But to tell a customer of a 2014 car that they won't address a TSB unless it is too late is insane, I don't care.

Didn't have much time to do a clean fancy fix, but it was dry and sunny so I used a mirror to get a close inspection. On my harness a white label is on the section where it goes over that curved piece of plastic, and it was a little aggravated. Got a 1" piece of loom tubing and ziptied it with the zip tie as between the loom and plastic piece as possible. Will consider a more robust fix when I have more time.



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So I was told you'd guys be interested in the date my Focus was manufactured.

I own a 2012 Ford Focus SE, Hatchback built in March.

The wire harness came the way you see it in the picture. Which has the plastic protective wire loom on the entire wire harness from factory.
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Old 10-16-2015, 09:57 AM   #88
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Awesome thank you for the information, This happened recently and now I know why... I just checked the harness and it has the problem, small slit in the casing of the harness.
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Old 10-18-2015, 01:06 AM   #89
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My car build was April '12 and while I have the plastic around the loom I still added my own over it since better safe than sorry.
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Newb here. Thanks for this thread. I just put the flex cover on my '13 hatch. Bought the cover at HD.
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