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Old 10-13-2014, 10:18 PM   #41
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I rode in a DCT to tonight for the first time. That shudder after take off gets annoying quick and I wasnt even driving. I am forever glad I went with my gut.
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Old 10-14-2014, 06:54 AM   #42
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"...that shudder..." is due to the person driving the car not working the DCT properly.
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"...that shudder..." is due to the person driving the car not working the DCT properly.
I honestly hope this is sarcasm.

We don't all have 2014 MY with the latest software/hardware. My car shudders in first gear even after the D revision clutch replacement (though, not the latest software) whether I slowly accelerate or quickly accelerate up a hill. It's not as bad or as it was before and it's more intermittent now, but still...

So, you're saying the Focus with the DCT is not designed to drive in traffic or up hills?
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Thanks for changing "troll" to "sarcasm".

Yes, we know what early adopters were told by dealers... and we know, from this thread specifically, that understanding how the DCT works (at least in the revised models) helps produce smoother results.
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I honestly believe its just the design nature of the DCT, I dont think its anything that would leave you stranded but its obvious that the DCT doesnt like going slow in parking lots and stop & go traffic... my wife has a '14 se Hb and so do I, not sure if the build date has anything to do with it as hers was born on 8/13 and mine on 6/14... would the software or clutch revisions be different or would they both be the same?

hers has the intermitent studder, not too bad, mine does not....
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I think advising drivers to avoid creeping in heavy traffic but rather leave gaps so we can be on the throttle more "steadily" for the sake of helping control the clutches tenperatures as worded in the original post, is nothing short of ridiculous.... it should not be our job to monitor the temperature but rather be engineered to handle levels of heat.... so in bumper to bumper traffic on the highway we should leave gaps so other vehicles can cut us off so we can control the temperature??? the only tenperature a driver should have to worry about is the one from the climate controls inside the vehicle.
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I think advising drivers to avoid creeping in heavy traffic but rather leave gaps so we can be on the throttle more "steadily" for the sake of helping control the clutches tenperatures as worded in the original post, is nothing short of ridiculous.... it should not be our job to monitor the temperature but rather be engineered to handle levels of heat.... so in bumper to bumper traffic on the highway we should leave gaps so other vehicles can cut us off so we can control the temperature??? the only tenperature a driver should have to worry about is the one from the climate controls inside the vehicle.
The same could be said about a manual gearbox. People who drive those have to take measures to make sure they don't overheat the clutch. Ford (or any other company, for that matter) doesn't have to tell everyone with a manual to not ride the clutch and burn it out.

Also, while it's more difficult to do, lots of stop and go traffic (especially if you're really getting on it each time) can overheat a torque converter in a standard automatic transmission as well.

You sound like you want a traditional automatic transmission. I suggest buying a vehicle with one, as you will probably never be happy with the DCT.
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Your mental temperature will drop if you ever try it and watch the actual results.

I've driven the Philly roads in an 18 Wheeler enough times to watch the traffic when it's backed up in all the lanes, and I can assure you that keeping tight bumper to bumper gains you nothing over a long session in such traffic except a headache.

Those that get ahead in one lane are soon left behind when another lane moves, then it repeats. Those that jump in front of you will jump out again, and seldom gain enough to matter as they try jumping back & forth. I've seen as many end up behind as gain through that trick when they guess wrong.

The OP's hints were posted quite a while ago now, and have proven useful for many.

You don't have to take them to extremes to have a positive result, taking it a little easier in traffic is good for both you and your car.
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actually you're wrong.
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actually you're wrong.
Whatever. Getting mad at your gearbox and Ford and those telling you how to make it drive better isn't going to "fix" it.

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