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Old 08-14-2013, 10:40 AM   #61
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I'm still curious if the reports on here are placebo or not. ?

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Try it and let us know.

My experience is that it does not cure the underlying DCT issues like grinding and slipping, but it does fix the throttle lag, improves low end power, and diminishes those DCT symptoms that were exacerbated by poor low end power like some of the herking and jerking at low speed.

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Old 08-14-2013, 10:45 AM   #62
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i looked at mine quickly and it had enough of a gap that i could push the whole thing together and close it up a little. I'm still curious if the reports on here are placebo or not. I know that on my bimmer, a leak in the intake system would cause rough idling and other very weird effects, but those were closer to the engine if that makes sense.

Still though, I'll tape mine up later. In my quick inspection it looked a little tricky to get to the underside. Is it?

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The underside could be hard to get at, but the large and deep rubber support for the intake tubes may do a decent job of sealing there. I'd suggest just doing the top and see if you notice a difference.

If this helps, I'm sure there are plenty of ways to effect a more permanent and, um, professional fix than duct tape. For now, this is a really, really cheap and quick test.

As this leak is upstream of the air filter, I imagine this would not cause the same symptoms as you noticed in your BMW. I suspect the issue here is drawing in hot engine compartment air at idle with a too-quick transition to cooler air when the throttle is opened. The PCM can adjust to changes in intake air temp, but not instantly. And with active grille shutters and the bottom "aeroshield" underhood temps on the Focus probably get pretty high.
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Old 08-14-2013, 11:25 AM   #63
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I forgot to mention that after plugging up this gap, I also disconnected the battery for a bit so the ecu would go through a re-learn.
That's not a good idea.
FWIW, the PCM is always "learning".
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That's not a good idea.
FWIW, the PCM is always "learning".
So the car can't ever have the battery disconnected? I guess It better be a long life battery.

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So the car can't ever have the battery disconnected? I guess It better be a long life battery.

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What he means is that whether you disconnect the battery or not, the ecu is going to relearn based on your driving.
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What he means is that whether you disconnect the battery or not, the ecu is going to relearn based on your driving.
I can tell you for sure that my ECU left the school building when I turned on the AC and any time I had extra passengers. It never did "learn".

only time it worked right was cold weather.
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so am i right in assuming you cant do this if you do the snorkel delete?
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What he means is that whether you disconnect the battery or not, the ecu is going to relearn based on your driving.
"doesn't work" is different than "not a good idea", but ok.

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Perhaps a better description would be "default the ECM". It doesn't hurt a thing, and it would seem to make sense when you're trying any A/F mod.

I am a believer in this mod. I have had it in-place now for a few days and can vouch for the smoother launch at high temps. This is one of the only concerns I've had with my June 2011 MFD Focus and it IS now what I expected the 2.0 w/DCT to be all along.

My step-by-step procedure was:

1) Fix the induction tube, clean and re-oil K&N DIF
2) Drive/Test (results were: smoother launch, smoother idle, lower tone of induction system under throttle)
3) Reset ECM
4) Drive/Test (results were: firmer shift points, higher RPM between 1-2, 3-4 shifts)
5) Run throttle calibration process (described previously)
6) Drive/Test (results were: couldn't tell any difference)
7) Reset gas mileage calculation to test for gain/loss (will post results later)
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Old 08-14-2013, 07:06 PM   #70
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Thumbs up

I too am a believer in this mod. After throwing on some grill pin stipe flair: A cheap and easy mod for the front grill that's worth a million bucks,..., I thought, why not service the drop in (it wasn't all that dirty but it had been 28K since I installed it) and work the simple intake gap seal fix (mine was about 5mm as well).

What struck me initially was the deeper induction tone ... cool! My car is over 36,000 miles now and her habits are quite familiar to me. I was a doubting Thomas a little on this one, but what the heck, I've got tape and stuff galore. Just like most others, my shifting, while not all that bad anyway in Maine's cooler temps, is improved and throttle response at low rpm's is better too. Kudos to Dan50 ... whooda thunk it!!!

Drinks are on me, Dan ...
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