Etis shows a new outstanding field service action for my 2/12 build SEL and my wife's 9/11 build SE:
"12B37 - , AND THE ANTI-LOCK BRAKE SYSTEM (ABS) MODULE"
A search of FF turned up nothing for 12B37 and neither did a search of the web. I assume this is a new one as it wasn't showing on either vehicle the other day. It also doesn't show as a recall on the Ford Owners site.
I've made an appointment for this recall for Friday...I'm looking forward to this update to see if it improves anything at all for me. I'm really hoping it does.
The low-idle rumble is gone. I'm positive I would have experienced it.
Compared to before, accelerating from idle is far smoother (a couple minor nitpicky moments but that's nothing and DCT in general is different...)
On slight inclines the car used to roll backward. I'm not getting that so far and there's one opportunity where it would have, but it hadn't... (middle inclines never were a problem and I could feel something engaging that confirmed it was doing its job to prevent rolling back...)
No grinding noise at all (yet, but of all the issues that grind noise was the least important - it might happen again but without other issues accompanying it I won't worry).
They had tested the A/C (so I didn't need to inquire) and it does seem to work (73 outside temp, and the control was set at LO (presumable 60). )
And the cool thing is, with a loaner car by comparison, I appreciate the DCT far, FAR more. DCT is so much smoother, noise or not.
Keeping my fingers crossed long-term, but chalk me up as another customer reporting an awesome success story! []
Even though this one doesn't apply to me it's great to hear you guys seem to finally be getting some resolution to your transmission quirks. Posted via FF Mobile
I got my update today. Of course I knew more about it than the service guy did. I explained it was to fix issues like vechicle roll back on inclines etc. He then put that on my service sheet that I was having an issue with rollback. When I got my service receipt it stated that rolling back on an incline was a "normal function". He obviously had no idea what the update was for or what it did.
Haven't had a chance to see if this update fixed the issue. It may all be in my head but after the update I seem to get better throttle response.
I still have some shudder when letting my foot off the brake. It seems to happen after the car has been driving for a while or if I come to a quick stop (like sudden traffic on the PA Turnpike). I'll see what happens after a 1000 miles (which will be a couple of weeks for me). Has to do the adaptive learning again.
The shifting seems to be better, though, especially when going from 1st to 2nd and 2nd to 3rd. When making a turn (slowing down for the turn, then pressing on the gas) it seems to be a lot smoother. So far I haven't had the "pause and lurch". It also looks like it's holding the higher gears a little longer to get better acceleration.
I'm not sure if you're talking about the shuttering when you depress the brake on a very hard stop... if that's the case it has been confirmed by a few ford mechanic to be the ABS.
The same can be said about the sharp turns at high speeds, the system applies the ABS brakes on the inside turn wheels to give it a sharper turn.
I've never experienced the shuttering when letting go of the brakes though. Only light gassing at low speeds inbetween 2nd-3rd gears, like a new manual driver would incidentally do.
But after the update, there is a huge difference, though I think it'll need to do some minor tweak and learning for my driving habits.
Loving the update so far! It seems to shift smoother than the 12-01-04A update (I didn't even think that was possible...) and I like the shift pattern in drive under moderate acceleration better; it seems to make more efficient use of the gearng to me (shifting at 2,500 as opposed to say 3,000) but without a feeling of lost power. I haven't done much sport mode driving yet.
I posted this in the main DCT Update thread, but thought it should also be in this thread:
I took my 1/31/2012 build Titanium in for the 12B37 FSA yesterday. I wasn't having any trouble with the DCT, but thought I would get it done since I also had a speaker rattle in the rear doors. On the service receipt it says "Completed Recall 12B37 by reprograming PCM, TCM and ABS. Also did IVD calibration, 7485 12B37C reprogram PCM and TCM." (I have no idea what the IVD is???)
When I picked up the car, I stopped in the dealer lot to see if the speaker rattle was gone (it wasn't....they're ordering new door panel clips) but I noticed the A/C was blowing hot air. I drove back into the shop, they took it in again. After about an hour, the service rep came out and showed me a communication they had received from Detroit in response to their query about my situation. Ford apparently has had reports that this FSA can cause the A/C to stop working. They recommended the tech take the car out on the road and run it at 1500 RPMs for three minutes. He did this and phoned in to the shop to say that at exactly three minutes, the A/C began blowing cold air.
It was kinda weird but fortunately, not a big problem. When you get the update, just make sure your A/C is working before you leave the dealer!
BTW, although I wasn't having any problems with the DCT before the update, it does seem a bit smoother. I've got to drive it a bit more to see if it really made a difference in my car.
I had it done today and the transmission is smoother, and the shutter is noticably reduced. However, it still makes some grinding noise. I will give a chance for the transmission to relearn itself. If it does not go away by 15,000 miles, I will have a talk with the dealer. I have 10,600 miles on the car now.
I just noticed today something that was absent prior to the update. Before I had the update I had no visible or audio warning when my seatbelt wasn't fastened, which I thought was odd....now it blinks, yells and screams at me as soon as I put it in drive with no seat belt on...obviously it supposed to do that, but now I'm wondering why it didn't do it before.
The point in buying a brand new car was to not have to take it into the shop, leave it there all day, arrange for rides to/from work, be without the car, etc. This makes twice already and I've only had the thing 2 weeks. Not the way to impress. The update is fine, it's the service department I'm weary of.
I just came back from my 10,000km service.
They didn't have any 12B37 listed in their system (Mexico), but got the 12-01-04 TSB instead. Maybe I'll just have to wait a couple of weeks until it's released here... the car shifts better than ever though
Oh, and I also had the 12-02-17A, 12-02-17B steering gear TSB parts ordered for me.
I had the FSA done today (and the wiper recall fix too - took less than an hour for both) and I can say it is a significant improvement. [headbang] I was not able to test it longer (only 4 kms of stop and go) but I can feel that it's smoother than before (and it was smooth) and it changes gears even better. The trepidation (at idle) I had after the last TCM/PCM update is almost gone too. Good job, Ford !
P.S. I will come back later with impressions, after some 500 km. [woot] And yes, I still have the "grinding" sound when in slow acceleration from stop (1 to 2), but as mentionned before, I think it is a normal thing for this transmission. It disapears as soon as I push a bit harder the gas pedal.
And yes, I still have the "grinding" sound when in slow acceleration from stop (1 to 2), but as mentionned before, I think it is a normal thing for this transmission. It disapears as soon as I push a bit harder the gas pedal.
I keep reading references to this "grinding" and I wonder if this is similar to the gear-rollover noise that the older MTX75 manual transmissions in the Mk1 Focus exhibited. My '01 does this, especially when the oil is hot. In actuality, the noise is really just a vibration or rattle, but some might think it sounds like grinding. It only occurs at very low RPMs.
Got the update on Saturday, Took a few hours (skeleton crew). Less herky-jerky behavior in freeway stop-and-go traffic (90% of my drive). Rollback on flat road is gone. Steering tighter when parallel parking. Also, increased acceleration - more zoom zoom. Bottom line - Give up a few hours to get this upgrade.
I've listened to it as well and it doesn't sound like the gears grinding -- more like the clutch mechanism. That may or may not be fixable with a software update. I kind of think it's a weakness in the clutch actuation...
The sound I (and some of us) hear seems to be the sound made at the transition between clutch no1 to clutch no2. The transmission on my car didn't have it before the 13 000 km (8100 miles) mark. It appeared after the winter TSB (january). It is not something that I hear everytime, it is only when I'm pressing verrrry slow the gas pedal from a full stop.
http://www.dctfacts.com/Wet-vs-Dry/default.aspx
(a table shows wet vs dry and Ford has a tranny listed for each type... It's possible both videos are correct, but I'll admit to not paying the closest attention to which video covers which car(s)...)
So, I got the 12B37 update for the DCT last friday. As I stated in an earlier post, I was not having any difficulty with my DCT before, but I thought I should get it done since my 1/31/12 build Titanium was eligible. After driving the car for a few days, I am very happy with the improved performance of the DCT after the update.
Before purchasing this car, I generally tried to avoid automatic transmissions in a small car. I had driven quite a few but it never seemed like the tranny matched the engine. While I really wanted a manual 6 speed in my Ti, they aren't available, as we know. But after test driving the Focus, I like the car so much I bought it with the DCT anyway. Before the update, my DCT ran well. No grinding as others have reported. Yes, I did get the surge/touchy pedal when backing up in the mornings, and the hill assist was not there (I thought I had accidentally turned it off), but otherwise the car ran pretty good.
But let me tell you, after this update it feels like I have a different car. No more morning surges at all. The hill assist now works like it was supposed to. But best of all, the DCT is so much more responsive. I now understand why Ford wanted this DCT in their car. The shifting is spot-on. No hesitation, no gear seeking. The gear changing is precise and accurate and the correct gear is now automatically there when I punch it. I am extremely happy with the positive improvements in how the car now drives. I strongly encourage anyone whose car is eligible, to get this update done. I hope everyone has as good a result as I have had.
I had mine done this morning and I noticed all the same improvements. Definitely worth the hassle and the courtesy shuttle driver who was far too burnt out and aggressive to be driving a motor vehicle.
I said I will come back after 500 km, but I am here a bit sooner. Because indeed, it is a great + to have this FSA done to your car. My DCT does shifts better, there is no more "gear hunting" when I suddenly press on the gas pedal while on an incline. I saw today for the first time, while running steady at 100 km/h = 62 mph, on a 32 km (20 miles) run the gas consumption as low as 5.8 l/100 km, which equals 40.56 mpg. The same trip before the update, was about 35 mpg (6.7 l/100 km). It might be only a "one time happening", but... it did put a smile on my face. I will come back later to let you know how things are. [thumb]
While I was at the dealership for another item, I went ahead and let them reprogram my car with the 12B37 update while I was waiting. I had no issues with my DCT performance before so had no expectations of this update but was pleasantly surprised that I actually noticed some improvements with how the car felt afterwards. The shift quality feels about the same as before but I think they improved how the engine torque is managed during shifting. Especially at low speed shifting like in stop and go traffic, shifting really does feel more seamless than before. This update seems to really improve how the engine and trans work together.
Yeah it's like you can afford to have a heavier foot from a stop now and not have to worry about the harsh 2nd gear.
I have also noticed it seems to want to hold a gear longer. I still also on occasion slowed down to turn into a parking lot and then put my foot back on the gas and it just bogged (fell on it's face)and then suddenly woke up and tried to downshift. Ugh.
I wouldn't say this update is quite perfect for me yet. But a Big improvement in like you said the seamless shifting.
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