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Old 03-19-2017, 10:53 AM   #1
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2009 Ford Focus SE Loud start/acceleration inside car

Hey guys. I've been lurking here for years getting tips from you all figured I'd register and make a thread.

I've got an 09 Focus with 140k on it. When I got it, it shook like a monster until I read here on the Forums that the mounts tend to go bad. Changed them out and it's smooth as my old Marquis. Now one thing that never seemed to go away is the sound. I know it's a DI engine so it's going to have a loud cold start but that thing just roars. And even after you let it heat up a bit it sounds extremely loud on acceleration. The strange thing is that it's only on the inside of the car? . I've stood outside the car with the door open and turned it on on a cold day and it just sounded like a car turning on no fuss.

I mean I can always blast the music higher but it just irks me. I thought it might be plugs so I changed those with no luck, gonna change the wires soon.

Any ideas? I'm out of them.


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No DI engines until 2012 here, and those aren't much louder (clicking pump has a noise insulator around it).

Passenger side engine mount needs to be a FORD unit for the least vibration, no reports of ANY aftermarket that work as well for that - and most don't last long if they come close new.

Other than that, the best guess I have is exhaust noise heard inside - and that can be from a system that contacts the body or a leak that's heard better from inside. For loud I'd be checking for that contact.
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No DI engines until 2012 here, and those aren't much louder (clicking pump has a noise insulator around it).

Passenger side engine mount needs to be a FORD unit for the least vibration, no reports of ANY aftermarket that work as well for that - and most don't last long if they come close new.

Other than that, the best guess I have is exhaust noise heard inside - and that can be from a system that contacts the body or a leak that's heard better from inside. For loud I'd be checking for that contact.
Oh haha I definitely read wrong then my bad. I was reading it might be a heatshield too but it's not a rattle as much as it sounds like a loud engine. I'll take a look! And my passenger mount was NOT a Ford part so I'll have to change it out. Would that reduce noise as well?
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If you aren't feeling vibrations you're OK for now on the mount - noise & vibes should both be present for those when really needed.

Worse when cold normally for mount vibrations, steering wheel often shows them first.

One noise assumption is that your car DOES have a stock intake/filter, alternatives are notably louder.
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If you aren't feeling vibrations you're OK for now on the mount - noise & vibes should both be present for those when really needed.

Worse when cold normally for mount vibrations, steering wheel often shows them first.

One noise assumption is that your car DOES have a stock intake/filter, alternatives are notably louder.
Oh okay gotcha. Thanks for the replies. Yeah it has the stock filter on it I was actually thinking about changing it out for a new stock filter since it doesn't look like it was ever replaced. And for some reason there's no gauge telling me whether it's still good. I'm feeling almost no vibrations at all and the wheel is doesn't shake any more.
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The duratec engine picture from this 'what engine' stickie (top of this page) shows the 'lifetime' setup for intake I'd assume you have. CT is CA emissions afaik, like NY.

Red car here:Which Engine Does My Focus Have?

That odd shaped box is a resonator and doesn't open, gauge SHOULD be on the side facing us in the picture & lower down on it.
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The duratec engine picture from this 'what engine' stickie (top of this page) shows the 'lifetime' setup for intake I'd assume you have. CT is CA emissions afaik, like NY.

Red car here]

That odd shaped box is a resonator and doesn't open, gauge SHOULD be on the side facing us in the picture & lower down on it.
Mine's the 2.0 Duratech engine. I've got the PZEV model unfortunately. No gauge though definitely went out to check
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If the gauge is missing (and I've seen that happen) you need to look for the hole where it was installed & plug it.

Originally had a rubber grommet to hold the gauge, that may still be there.

This is to prevent unfiltered air from reaching the engine, and make sure all intake air goes through the MAF to be measured.

I'd post a WTB ad here looking for a cheap replacement, or other J/Y type sources - IDK offhand if that part is avail. separately.

Remember one member who found it floating loose NEAR the original location after working on the car and posted asking where it went - VERY lucky it didn't get lost.

Units for other equipment/vehicles could be used, but it's nicer to have the stock one and know the recommended measurements are being used.
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Did you install the mounts yourself or did a dealership/shop do it?

Sounds like you're describing harmonic vibration, vibration you don't necessarily feel, but you can hear it being transmitted through the chassis.

My first guess is that the mounts are aftermarket or are incorrectly installed.
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If the gauge is missing (and I've seen that happen) you need to look for the hole where it was installed & plug it.

Originally had a rubber grommet to hold the gauge, that may still be there.

This is to prevent unfiltered air from reaching the engine, and make sure all intake air goes through the MAF to be measured.

I'd post a WTB ad here looking for a cheap replacement, or other J/Y type sources - IDK offhand if that part is avail. separately.

Remember one member who found it floating loose NEAR the original location after working on the car and posted asking where it went - VERY lucky it didn't get lost.

Units for other equipment/vehicles could be used, but it's nicer to have the stock one and know the recommended measurements are being used.
hmm that's interesting. Could that be causing a vacuum leak you think? I'm gonna check out getting another gauge while I'm at it!
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