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Old 12-20-2016, 11:47 AM   #1
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clutch is too soft

I recently replaced the engine, i also replaced the slave cylinder in the trans in my 2006 focus ZX4. My master cylinder began to leak and i replaced it, i have tried to bleed the clutch myself to no avail, i have had a mechanic pressure bleed it twice to no avail. It is still soft and will slowly go to the floor if you hold it down. My question is could the slave cylinder have went bad in such a short time period? or could there be a air leak some where that i'm unable to find (maybe replace the master cylinder again). I feel like my last resort is to pull the trans (very expensive) and see if the slave is leaking.


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Old 12-20-2016, 12:59 PM   #2
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If the slave were leaking there should be fluid dripping between the engine-trans join, and the fluid level in the reservoir should go down. On the other hand, the dang masters are notoriously hard to bleed. Keep trying.
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Old 12-20-2016, 01:18 PM   #3
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Thanks for the response, would the fluid be leaking out of the trans or would i need to loosen up the bolts holding the trans to the engine? I guess if the brake fluid level isn't going down then how could i find the air leakinto the system?
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Old 12-20-2016, 02:59 PM   #4
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There's a drain hole in the housing to let out any leaks/moisture.

Reverse bleed as the factory does is the final answer for some having issues trying to bleed it.
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Great, is it obvious? if not, could you give me a idea about how to identify it? thanks
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Shucks, just follow the parting line between engine & trans along the bottom - you'll see a notch/gap around the center area.

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thanks, so if there is no fluid leak from the trans, then that would rule out the slave leaking fluid? and it must be an air leak somewhere else, like the master cylinder. Is that fair to say or would I be wrong? I am trying to avoid paying someone to pull the trans, to see if the slave is leaking.
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Refer back to the first answer from Pb-foot, it's very accurate.

Unless it's dripping fluid, you don't have a leak at the slave.

There are MANY long threads detailing fights with the system to get it bled adequately, some also find that their NEW master cyl. won't work right for them. Whether that actually happens in ALL cases is suspect, I think some just get more lucky the second try.
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Some of the new cylinder issues were somehow tied to user incompetence, when I was in parts I used to 'fix' the errant 'warrantied' parts to then have the next buyer not have any trouble at all with them. Some you could tell were taken apart by people who could not put them back together right and some came from the factory like that, a real mixed bag there..................it doesn't take a whole lot to mess one up.

If China doesn't mess it up somebody here will be sure to do so. I had people who would gut the inside of the seals then bring part back saying it didn't work, but suddenly 'the car is fixed'.
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UPDATE: i recently had my local mechanic repalce the master cylinder and nothing changed, so we decided the problem was the slave cylinder in the trans, i have asked him to drop the trans and replace the slave cylinder. He swears this is the only thing left to do, so i am now waiting on him to do that. He says the slaves are notorious for going out and that he has sometimes replaced several before getting one that will last. IDK, the factory one lasted over 200,000 miles. What does this forum say to the latest?
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