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Old 05-15-2016, 01:19 AM   #1
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Need experienced advice on engine swap.

I let the kid have my Focus which she promptly wrecked. I fixed it and sold it off. She only got to wreck it once. Now she has a Mercury Mariner (Ford Excape) that she talked her mom into buying. I didn't like it and said so. Now we find out it was run low on oil and the engine needs to be swapped out.

If this was a 4 banger like the focus, I'd support the transaxle and pull the 4 pot out the top. The Mariner though is both a V-6 and AWD. Anybody know if I can pull the V-6 out the top or do I need to lower the engine/transaxle assembly out the bottom.

I have to bring the equipment from the shop either way. The kids fiancee' is going to swap it out with his brother. I have been informed I will be helping. I've also been informed I get to buy the used engine to drop in.

Yes, I know it isn't a Focus but all my friends try to avoid working on these type of vehicles and I thoought I'd see if anybody here has experience with these.


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Zero experience to call on here, but it's a sidewinder setup similar to the Focus & other FWD vehicles of the type.

Space to play will be even more limited, and even with 4 cyl. swapping out the entire drive train through the bottom and assembling it with clearance avail. ends up easier. Factory installation method comes into play here, that's the way it went together to begin with.
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Zero experience to call on here, but it's a sidewinder setup similar to the Focus & other FWD vehicles of the type.

Space to play will be even more limited, and even with 4 cyl. swapping out the entire drive train through the bottom and assembling it with clearance avail. ends up easier. Factory installation method comes into play here, that's the way it went together to begin with.


If it was just me and I had the luxury to take my time, that's how I'd do it. Unfortunately, I've got two tyros wanting to do the job. The only FWD car I've ever pulled and replaced the engine in was a 1970 Olds Toronado back in '74 or '75. This Mercury is all wheel drive and I'm not sure how they transfer power to the rear axle. The two guys that plan to do it are a lawyer and a high school kid. The kid is pretty decent with mechanical ability, but he doesn't have much experience. I started working under the hood when I was 5.
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Swap it out thru the top would be the easier then dropping the cradle & the whole shebang. btw that never happened to me, my wife always mentioned stuff like that, my kids knew to come to me about cars.
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Swap it out thru the top would be the easier then dropping the cradle & the whole shebang. btw that never happened to me, my wife always mentioned stuff like that, my kids knew to come to me about cars.


If it was a 4 pot, that's what I'd do. It being a V-6 though, access to bolts can be limited. I really don't want to drop the whole shebang but that's how the factory put it in.

I tried to talk the kid into a nice little granny car with 70K on the clock that the driver had to quit driving due to age. Nope, she paid 4 times as much with a car that had three times the miles.
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There's a small hypoid gear box off the trans to send the power to the rear for the part time low percentage RWD unit there. Saw one when it was getting replaced for a broken case. You can detach the drive shaft easily there.

No large transfer case at the front to add to the fun.

I just worry about having enough sideways space to separate the engine from the trans, even with an automatic that takes less room for the separation.
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There's a small hypoid gear box off the trans to send the power to the rear for the part time low percentage RWD unit there. Saw one when it was getting replaced for a broken case. You can detach the drive shaft easily there.

No large transfer case at the front to add to the fun.

I just worry about having enough sideways space to separate the engine from the trans, even with an automatic that takes less room for the separation.


I found a pair of videos that detailed the change of an engine in a V-6 Escape. Being 3 cylinders long, there's just enough room to change it out and leave the transaxle in place. It also showed a couple of problems to address when doing the job. Very tight clearance on a/c lines but it'll squeak past.
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Very good, that's the info. you needed from someone's experience!
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