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Old 05-12-2015, 09:34 AM   #1
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2009 Focus SES front end Vibration Noise

I have an 09 Focus SES 2 door 5 speed. Recently I have noticed while Idling I have been hearing a muffled vibration noise. I have already went through having issues with the dash rattling and had that looked at under warranty that was a few years back. I have almost 70K on the car now and I am wondering if it is a motor mount issue or if there is something else that could be making the noise. I dont know if anyone else has had this issue or could point me in the right place to start looking. I only hear it while Idling one I let off the clutch and on the gas it immedietly goes away and is fine while driving. If I have the radio on it is harder to hear but if I have the radio down or off it is very noticable. Any suggestions are appreciated.


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First: Does it change or disappear when you put your foot on the clutch?

Second: Yes, the vibrations from a passenger side motor mount can show up first at idle. IF it happens mostly when cold, this is a vibration possibility that can cause anything else to vibrate for a noise source. Worst at idle/cold, you can use a jack & board to LIGHTLY lift up the engine. Vibration/noise disappears - motor mount is the cause.
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Old 05-12-2015, 10:17 AM   #3
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First: Does it change or disappear when you put your foot on the clutch?

Second: Yes, the vibrations from a passenger side motor mount can show up first at idle. IF it happens mostly when cold, this is a vibration possibility that can cause anything else to vibrate for a noise source. Worst at idle/cold, you can use a jack & board to LIGHTLY lift up the engine. Vibration/noise disappears - motor mount is the cause.
Thank you for the reply. Temps have been very warm here in western pa the past week in the 90's. I drove the car sunday to pittsburgh and was in traffic and did not hear it. when I started the car in my driveway this morning I did not notice it. On my way to work I was stopped at a red light and thats when I really noticed it. I have about a 20 min drive to work. I drove the car breifly after I got to work to take my boss to drop off his car and I noticed it then. The car was warmed up and the temps are about 70. My first guess was motor mount but wasnt sure so basically you are saying put a jack and a board under the motor and lift on it while it is running to see if the sound goes away?
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That's a trick to diagnose vibrations from a worn engine mount. By itself, it's unlikely to produce noises & less likely to vibrate in the warm conditions. Vibrations can cause noises from other items.

Mine's been on it's way out for a while now, and isn't noticeable in the warm summer weather (plenty of vibes on a cold Winter's morning).

Asked about sound when clutch is pressed, sometimes there is a rattle from the throwout bearing with the clutch released at idle. Goes away as soon as your foot is on the pedal.
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That's a trick to diagnose vibrations from a worn engine mount. By itself, it's unlikely to produce noises & less likely to vibrate in the warm conditions. Vibrations can cause noises from other items.

Mine's been on it's way out for a while now, and isn't noticeable in the warm summer weather (plenty of vibes on a cold Winter's morning).

Asked about sound when clutch is pressed, sometimes there is a rattle from the throwout bearing with the clutch released at idle. Goes away as soon as your foot is on the pedal.
Ok so today when I went to lunch the temperature was around 75 when I went into work it was in the 60's with a cool breeze so it did not feel all that warm. With that being said when I went to lunch and drove my car it had been sitting in the sun and the temp was up I had no noise. When I left work it had been sitting in the shade and it had cooled down with temps getting into the 40's tonight. The noise was back at that point and I noticed that if the rpms were over 1k there was no noise but once it went under 1k that is when it started. I am guessing the diagnosis of a motor mount is most likely correct. As to you saying about the throw out bearing I know what noise you are talking about I did not know that is what it was until you pointed it out but I know exactly the noise you are referring to. My next question is do you have any part numbers for a replacement motor mount? I looked on advance auto parts web site and this is what I get Anchor Engine Mount 3103: Advance Auto Parts. I also checked rock auto and this is what they have More Information for WESTAR EM3103 I don't really know where else to look I did check ebay and they have some OEM parts but they don't look like these 2 mounts.
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You want a Ford part for the passenger side mount, whether bought locally or discount mail order.

Those aftermarket ones often don't cure the problem, or when they do the life span can be very short.

Last poster saying his was great for close to a year rescinded that soon after, he HAD been disputing the recommendations posted here.
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So I went onto the ford parts website and put in my VIN and searched motor mount and this is what I come up with 2009 Ford Focus Engine Mount Isolator | FordParts.com. Is this the mount that I need? I just want to check since when I search online I come up with a bunch of different mounts I am guessing there are different ones for automatic and manual but figured I would check.
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That's the right side mount for a 5-spd '09 2.0.

Correct one (unless you've got an automatic).
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