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Old 06-23-2014, 11:27 AM   #1
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Why no fire?

Ok first post here, on xterra forums for my truck but now the lady's ride is stumping me...

2002 focus with the 2.0, 100,115 miles, bought 10,000 miles ago, I got the car at an auction and I'm pretty sure the previous owner beat it up a bit (E-brake didn't work, all out of alignment, sway bar was broken!!!??), gas gauge doesn't work so she ran outta gas (she uses the odometer but somehow "forgot") put 3 gallons in it and it still wouldn't start. The fuel pump turns on and the relay is working fine... I got to the point of putting a little bit of gas/sea foam down the throttle body to see if it would fire and it wouldn't... Not getting different compressions/free spinning like a broken t-belt... Fuel filter clogged maybe?? Oh and I am getting spark??? Thanks for any help!!!!


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Old 06-23-2014, 12:06 PM   #2
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I know there was a recall or TSB on a lot of focus fuel filters. That may be an issue (Though I don't know if it is the issue).

The three requirements for ignition are fuel, spark, and air. most likely problem on these cars is the coil pack, or the wiring thereof, but if you are certain you are getting spark, that is probably not the issue. (I was confused with the question marks as to whether or not you are getting spark, didn't know if that was a statement or a question).

Best thing to do is start at the beginning, and be as clear as possible. what happens when you turn the key, how did you check for spark/compression/fuel pump/relay/etc... the more info you provide, the more helpful we can be.

Thanks, and good luck.
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Might have answered it in the question.

If it SOUNDS like it's just spinning over - no compression - check the belt/cam turning first. IIRC you can see if there's any movement by pulling the fill cap & having someone crank it.
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Run out of gas and fuel pump commonly dies from dry cranking, they fuel cool and lube, plastic impeller melts when dry. Why they emphasize in owner manual to never run out of gas...........
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Old 06-24-2014, 04:36 PM   #6
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let it sit for 2-3 days and try again...if it starts, again then find out whats wrong and let me know...wifes 2001 has been doing that every month or so.....

if I happen to figure hers out then I'll let you know if it is the same issue.
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must be more than 1/4 tank of gas. hers died the other day (after telling her the last time it did it to keep it over 1/4) first time she let it go below 1/4 it stalled and would not start. had a jug in the garage just for that reason and that did it. now maybe she will keep it full.

funny thin is this has never happened on the road or anywhere other than our own driveway. (once at my work when the car sat there over night for repairs) but has never stranded us.

she had even told a guy she works with, who was looking at a focus that wouldn't start, to make sure it was over 1/4 tank. he told her the next day that it worked.
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