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Classic6200 01-18-2013 06:47 AM

Up and died yesterday
Hi guys. This is my first post and unfortunately its for a problem.[???:)]

As I was traveling home from work yesterday I came upon a stop sign. As I procedded past it, the car stumbled one time then died. I coasted across the street.

This summer I had changed out all plugs, wires and the coil top off with a fresh oil change. Fuel pump changed 2 yrs ago. I have no vacuum leaks or had any issues until yesterday. Fresh tank of gas also.

I checked all fuses under the hood and they are good.

The motor will not even crank. after initial key turn on and dash light check the odometer has dash marks across it and the radio's clock reset.

I carry an actron diag scanner and it will not link with the auto. I have 133K on car. No broken serpentine belt either.

I'd sure appreciate any help.

zpellicone 01-18-2013 07:18 AM

Hmmm thats odd, did anything happen out of the ordinary leading up to this? Have you had starting problems or weird start ups before? Do you have voltage fluctuations that you can see in the instrumentation. My wild guess would be that maybe your alternator flaked out. What does it do when you try to crank? does it give a ticking noise? Thats weird that the odo doesn't read anything. Maybe your ECM went kaput.

Classic6200 01-18-2013 07:41 AM

Nothing out of the ordinary. Totally from left field. No tick or click when key is pushed to start.

1turbofocus 01-18-2013 07:55 AM

If you have --------- across the odo this means PATS is set or no power to the ECU

I would first start with the ECU fuses and dont forget the odd looking all black fuse that is also one of the ECU fuses (FUSES UNDER HOOD) , there is also a small ground wire that is on the drivers side of the batt if this ground comes loose or not making a good connections you will get - - - -

The small ground to the Neg term will also cause this

I would start with the fuses and go from there


Classic6200 01-18-2013 08:09 AM

Thanks Tom!. I'm going to take a look at my lunch break, clean the post and grounds and see if it helps out.

I don't know Jack about the PATs or how it works.

No ill towards all Jacks out there[headbang]

matmatician 01-18-2013 08:18 AM

Also, when my alternator went out, one did about the same thing, but there were a few warning signs that I was forced to ignore because of my financial situation. Did you bet a battery light at any point recently? Even for 30 seconds?

Classic6200 01-18-2013 08:46 AM

No battery light or any electrical problems, it was a 46 degree clear and dry day.

1turbofocus 01-18-2013 11:19 AM

Cleaning the post wont do it , its the small ground wires going to the body and post that could be the issues , I would get your handbook and check the ECU fuses as well as the black fuses that MUST stay the black type fuse


Classic6200 01-18-2013 12:21 PM

Roger doger!! I'll put special attention to that ground wire. Does it come from the ECU?

Are the black fuse's swappable?

No handbook. Car didn't have one when I bought it. Lucked out and read where I can download from FORD.

I'll have to wait until later to check as my lead tech took time off and I'm the second wipe.

Thanks for all the help. Thanks to all. I will post back when i get to tinkering.

Classic6200 01-19-2013 05:40 PM

Found The Cause
Hi Guys.

The part that failed was found today. Good thing I took an extra set of eyes with me.

Although I stated that all the fuse's were good, my son (with way better vision) saw that fuse #9 in the hood fuse box was blown.

He also noted that is was a 30 amp fuse instead of a 20 amp as required.

We ran to autozone an got a few fuse's, pushed one in and VIOLA! Car started and ran fine the whole 25 miles home.

Unfortunately I believe that this had occured with the prior owner (hence the 30 amper).

Looks like it will be an intermittant problem until it goes kaput.

Thank for all the help.

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