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Old 12-21-2012, 01:44 PM   #1
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rusted bolt penetrating oils > FYI

(I got this in an email recently. Might be useful).
Interesting article

"Machinist's Workshop" recently published information on various penetrating oils. The magazine reports they tested these products for "break out "torque" on rusted nuts and bolts. A subjective test was made of popular penetrating oils, with the unit of merit being the torque required to remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" bolt.
Average torque load to loosen nut:
No Oil used .........................516 foot pounds
WD-40 ..................... .........238 foot pounds
PB Blaster ..........................214 foot pounds
Liquid Wrench .......................127 foot pounds
Kano Kroil ..........................106 foot pounds
ATF/Acetone mix..................... 53 foot pounds

The ATF/Acetone mix is a "home brew" mix of 50/50 automatic transmission fluid and acetone. Note this "home brew" released bolts better than any commercial product in this one particular test.Our local machinist group mixed up a batch, and we all now use it with equally good results. Note also that Liquid Wrench is almost as good as Kroil for 20% of the price. ATF/Acetone mix is best, but you can also use ATF and lacquer thinner in a 50/50 mix. ATF 3D Any type of Automatic Transmission Fluid


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That mix, and others very similar, are often referred to as

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Ya, I only found it interesting in that actual break out torque was measured, as the focus seems to have a problem with frozen bolts (rear LCA specifically).
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Ya, I only found it interesting in that actual break out torque was measured, as the focus seems to have a problem with frozen bolts (rear LCA specifically).
LCA?

Incidentally, that ATF/acetone mixture is good to know, as I plan on doing a exhaust upgrade in the near future.
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LCA = Lower control Arm
UCA = Upper control arm
SB = swaybar
TB = trackbar (focus doesnt use one)
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Great info!!
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Careful using Acetone based solvents as a general purpose rusty nut loosener, acetone can melt some plastics and rubber. ATF deteriorates rubber bushings over time as well.
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What elsolo said if you have limited experience with acetone. keep it away from plastics especially!
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I'm gonna mix up some of "Ed's Red" at work; they'll probably laugh at me until they use it.
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I'd never heard it called "Eds Red" but I've heard of that mix before and how well it worked. It would be handy to keep some pre-mixed on hand but I don't know what I'd safely keep it in given the acetone, anybody have any ideas about that?
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