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Old 03-23-2004, 02:23 PM   #1
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prepare for toms' turbo kit..

So i've decided to go with tom's stage 1 turbo kit, once my wallet agrees with me, and i'm wondering what I should be focusing my other cheaper mods on to make the motor more receptive to the turbo. What HAS to be done before I get the kit?

1. I'm aware of the need for bigger injectors, BOV and full exhaust (2.5" or 3"?).

2. I've read that cams are a pointless purchase when used in conjunction with FI (correct me if i'm wrong)

3. I'm gunning for about 215-230whp. Will i need the side mount intercooler if i'm running less than 12 psi?

BTW..all I have now are eibach springs and an intake now.

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If you want an intercooler you might as well do the stage 2 or 3 so your car can be tuned properly with Tom..........

If you are talking about Tom's new kit that prodeces 8-10 psi that's another matter........

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boost aboive 8 psi will break the engine, the rods and the pistons are madw for 130 HP
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1. I am talking about the 8-10 psi kit. What difference does it make?

2. Ahab: so are you suggesting that I should get better pistons and rods to support 10psi? I assumed that the stock bottom end could handle that amount of boost...

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Bottom end yes, I dont know if the car is chipped or not but if you go above 7k RPM with 8 psi boost the engine will wear out and break much faster. The stock rods and rod fasners and pistons are specifically designed for 130 HP. They will break and fail if you ring High boost and high RPM 9 PSI and above is not good for stock rods. A professional tuner broke his rods when he was running stock internals(and 9 psi boost turbo) he was racing Z06 corvette at 150mph, his rods snapped. Ford has cast pistons wich will not survive high rpm and engine knocks.
Also stock main caps will break and wear out very fast with anything over 350 crankshaft HP.
but you will need to be running a bigass turbo to worry about that!!!
so keep the boost around 7psi and dont remove the rev limiter you should have your turbo setup last forever,
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Bottom end yes, I dont know if the car is chipped or not but if you go above 7k RPM with 8 psi boost the engine will wear out and break much faster. The stock rods and rod fasners and pistons are specifically designed for 130 HP. They will break and fail if you ring High boost and high RPM 9 PSI and above is not good for stock rods. A professional tuner broke his rods when he was running stock internals(and 9 psi boost turbo) he was racing Z06 corvette at 150mph, his rods snapped. Ford has cast pistons wich will not survive high rpm and engine knocks.
Also stock main caps will break and wear out very fast with anything over 350 crankshaft HP.
but you will need to be running a bigass turbo to worry about that!!!
so keep the boost around 7psi and dont remove the rev limiter you should have your turbo setup last forever,
professional tuner....i don't call alamo autosports anywhere near professionals with tuning as they thought the stock injectors would be fine. the main caps r fine, and stock rods, pistons on fine with a correct tune at 9 psi. rod fasteners?...wish i knew what those were. but the weak point is the con rod bolts....bring the car to tom and don't worry about the rest. no engine will survive detonation...you think forged pc's are better of when you have piston slap?
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nah they disnt use stock injectors
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read a long time back...i read about the kit over 3 years ago in sport compact car where that comment was said. they used stock injectors...blew the motor, tried larger, blew the motor, they couldn't figure out how to work with the maf not knowing it maxes out far before the numbers they made. then they wondered why there headers were cracking but never thought of temps. so they ended up with no solid tuning...that is not a tuner, that is a half assed company trying to make money off of teenagers that drive a focus and have no idea, suprised they don't work with gude.
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hmm they never mentioned that in the article
maybe the figured out the problem?
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last i heard at least for toms full kit was full 3" exhaust, tb, and cam gears...i dont really know much about his smaller kit and it may be a while before it comes out.
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