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Old 07-30-2006, 09:53 AM   #1
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What would you do first? Cams or S/C

Help me decide..

What should come first? I have a set of cams from Zxtuner for my SVT and I want to install them ASAP. Now on the other hand I have a procharger kit 8lbs with a FMIC.

What should I do first? Cams or S/C Im going to go with tom on the install of the cams and the VCT eliminator with new buckets. From just the cams and cam gears 15hp maybe???

Power goal for the total package 265-270hp-215-225tq.

I can't decide what to do first. I'm looking forward to get a dyno sheet for the cams.

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If you have the procharger in your possesion INSTALL IT. Cams will not get you
anywhere near the power gains that the SC will.
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Old 07-30-2006, 10:07 AM   #3
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Procharger is sitting right next to me.

I know the boost will be more power but should the cams come first then the boost?

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Others on the forum will recommend not using aftermarket cams with any form of
forced induction (turbo, supercharger). You can use the aftermarket cams with the
supercharger, but you have to take it to a tuner that knows what they are doing.

I think it might cause some problems. Most of the forced induction packages offered
work best with the stock cams.

Hopefully Tom from Focus power will chime in on this one. He is very knowlageable
about forced induction.

The cams are more for a Naturally aspirated build up and not for forced induction.
But there are manufactures that have cmas designed for boost.

I just glanced at your first post. If you are taking it to Tom he will be able
to properly install and tune both the supercharger and cams

But install the supercharger first cams second


Off topic, how much did the whole supercharger setup minus the cams run you?
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Quote:
Originally posted by SuperFocusMan
Others on the forum will recommend not using aftermarket cams with any form of
forced induction (turbo, supercharger). You can use the aftermarket cams with the
supercharger, but you have to take it to a tuner that knows what they are doing.

I think it might cause some problems. Most of the forced induction packages offered
work best with the stock cams.

Hopefully Tom from Focus power will chime in on this one. He is very knowlageable
about forced induction.

The cams are more for a Naturally aspirated build up and not for forced induction.
But there are manufactures that have cmas designed for boost.

I just glanced at your first post. If you are taking it to Tom he will be able
to properly install and tune both the supercharger and cams

But install the supercharger first cams second


Off topic, how much did the whole supercharger setup minus the cams run you?

I could'nt say it better myself Tom is very very knowledgeable. Cams would come second there is a difference with N/A cams and FI cams putting those cams in might actully hurt power with FI.
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Old 07-30-2006, 04:25 PM   #6
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Originally posted by SuperFocusMan
Others on the forum will recommend not using aftermarket cams with any form of
forced induction (turbo, supercharger). You can use the aftermarket cams with the
supercharger, but you have to take it to a tuner that knows what they are doing.

I think it might cause some problems. Most of the forced induction packages offered
work best with the stock cams.

Hopefully Tom from Focus power will chime in on this one. He is very knowlageable
about forced induction.

The cams are more for a Naturally aspirated build up and not for forced induction.
But there are manufactures that have cmas designed for boost.

I just glanced at your first post. If you are taking it to Tom he will be able
to properly install and tune both the supercharger and cams

But install the supercharger first cams second


Off topic, how much did the whole supercharger setup minus the cams run you?
S/C about 3100 before the price when up. I bought a FMIC so I didn't get the intercooler that comes with the kit.

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I would do the SC and forget about the cams.

Aftermarket NA cams have alot of overlap, overlap ( when the intake AND exhaust cams are open at the same time) is what helps make power on NA engines by using the intake cycle to "push" out the unburnt exhaust gases. With FI overlap causes you to blow your boost out the exhaust.... thus loosing your hard earned power.
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^^ that all depends on the type of cams and amount of overlap.

But I do agree. Throw that SC on there NOW!
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I would do the SC and forget about the cams.

Aftermarket NA cams have alot of overlap, overlap ( when the intake AND exhaust cams are open at the same time) is what helps make power on NA engines by using the intake cycle to "push" out the unburnt exhaust gases. With FI overlap causes you to blow your boost out the exhaust.... thus loosing your hard earned power.

thats what I wanted to say, but wasnt sure on how to say it. I knew about the
overlap part but didnt understand what overlap was.


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install the blower.....save cams for later.
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