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Old 09-19-2003, 10:22 AM   #1
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Question Stage 1 or 2??

I don't know which cams to get. Should I get stage 1 or stage 2? I want to add a supercharger later, but that could be a while.

Do I need adjustable cam gears? I like the fact that they are lighter, but can I do without them?


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Old 09-19-2003, 11:02 AM   #2
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you wont like crowers w/a blower especially, think will be very piggish down low.

look into stage 1s, regardless of manufacturer.

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Old 09-19-2003, 11:15 AM   #3
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Good point. This will be a daily driver with lots of red lights ahead. I really don't know much at all about cams, but working on my Focus is forcing me to learn fast. Do you think I should add new valve springs or anything else like that. I want my engine to be safe.

I also heard that I could lose power with this mod. Is that just if it isn't timed right?
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you will need cam gears, you won't need new valve springs and retainers....the crowers, even stage one have a loping idle. of course you will lose power if they aren't timed correctly...luckily our motor is non interference...or it would crush some internal goodies...you better tell me a mechanic is installing these...
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yes, this will all be professionally installed except for the intake and TB.

Any ideas about where my hp/torque will be assuming I get the stage 1 cam?

BTW: what do you mean by "loping idle"?
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ever hear a v8 that barely idles....as you can almost count the revolutions the crank is at...thats a loping idle..just not as bad. lil over 140whp
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haha...man, I don't really want that, but to be honest, it kinda does that already, so it's okay.

Now, I can't decide on what to get, Crane cams or Crower cams.
Crane says idle - 6500rpm (and cost ??? does anyone know?)
Crower says idle - 6000rpm (and cost $401.98)

Crane says that they have smoothed out the idle + they have higher rpm range, so that "sounds" like a good choice. What do ya think?
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i can tell you that no matter what stage crower it is...it will def not be from idle up...ii say go to crane.
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Well then, we agree on what cams I'm getting. Great! Do you have any idea how much they cost?

Also, will the stock MAF be substancially restrictive? I'd like to get the 70mm, but that's gonna have to wait for more cash.

Oh, and just a funny note...I'm keeping the 'Turbo Tornado'. I'm gonna put it between my new cone filter and the MAF (in case it really does what it says, that's a good place). I'm still upset I bought it, but it sounds like I have a turbo sometimes because of the whistle..lol. Infomercials suck!! They take advantage of impulse buyers.
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you can look at my site to see what ford racing (same as crane) stage 1s do. mcnews for 345, ask for ray or bobby. 717-432-9503 or 2686

http://thewarf.com/ryan/mycar.html

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