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Old 09-23-2005, 09:49 AM   #1
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Question Why are turbo's always recommended?

After reading lots and lots of posts in the FI chat, I have noticed that everyone recommends turbos when someone asks what to do to their focus. I couldn't really figure it out until now. I started doing research into the differences between the two and still thought it was a matter of personal preference. It didn't seem that one was worse for your car than the other. Then I started looking at the kits available. It seems there are more turbo choices out there than supercharger choices. The turbo's generally seem to produce more horsepower and considerally more torque than the supercharger kits out there. There's also people like Tom who seem to have a great kit available for a reasonable price. I guess I'm going S/C because I'm not looking for crazy hp/tq gains- just enough to give my car a little more balls and have it there on demand. So why are turbo's always recommended for everyday drivers? Is it just a better choice for our cars or is it still personal preference?


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Personal preference. The S/C is a better choice for street use for the regular guy looking to get some good power with minimal hassle. The Procharger is the best for the $ and is the easiest to install. Turbos are great for power esp. if youre going to race on the strip. But, a P/C will do as good or better job light to light than the standard turbo.
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It all depends on if you cought up in HP numbers or if you want a little TQ with your package

TQ is what you feel and what gets your car up and going , Turbos feel better , pull harder , easyier to upgrade and the biggest thing is the make TQ and lots of it

As for SC there are many of them out there

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But none come close to the potental , TQ , feel , and upgradeability of a good turbocharger kit and you dont need to want crazyHP to want a good daily driving turbocharger that is what the boost controller is for , but when youdo want more in 2.4 Sec you can add another 20 , 30 , 40 HP unlike SC where it takes HR`s to add more boost

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Personal preference. The S/C is a better choice for street use for the regular guy looking to get some good power with minimal hassle. The Procharger is the best for the $ and is the easiest to install. Turbos are great for power esp. if youre going to race on the strip. But, a P/C will do as good or better job light to light than the standard turbo.
That is a very bad misconception that people have about turbos and totally not true , back in the day when turbos had sooooooo much lag maybe but not any more

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Like i said, "personal opinion". And depends what you want. And i disagree with that "not true statement". It still holds true for alot of the standard turbo kits out there. Nobody said any particular kit Tom. Tom has some really good kits put together that work well, but are pricey for some people. Bang for the $, i still say the P/C is very hard to beat. Just bolting one on a stock zetec will yeild appx 100 HP gain and about 80 ft lbs. or torque. Thats all some people may want especially when you consider the average person can install it easily. If you have the $ and want more, Tom is a good one to talk to for the Turbo's.
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Turbos in my opinion are more efficient and save you way more on gas compared to a supercharger because the supercharger is hooked up to your belt. Therefore it's always running.
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Turbos are FREE Horse Power.

Super Chargers/ Blowers are not.

With a blower you lose around 25% of the horse power that they create. But the Hp is right there at the begining. Where with a turbo you don't lose any Hp because there is no drag on the engine. They do lag alittle but who can Pass up FREE Hp?

Remember that as with any mod to the intake you can only put in as much air as you can take out. So with a turbo, blower, CAI, whatever, always upgrade your exhaust.
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First off Turbo's are NOT free, they to apply some back pressure though it may not be a lot.
Second HP and Torque are really the same thing, different measurments though. To me I like both, the tubo has lag but is much more free but the superchager produces power instantly. It also depends on the type of superchager.

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First off Turbo's are NOT free, they to apply some back pressure though it may not be a lot.
Second HP and Torque are really the same thing, different measurments though. To me I like both, the tubo has lag but is much more free but the superchager produces power instantly. It also depends on the type of superchager.

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HP and Torque or not the same thing cause torque gets you there, HP keeps you there, this is a famous quote.

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Zurk where did you get " With a blower you lose around 25% of the horse power that they create". If that were true no one would put a SC on any car. It would be a complete waist of time. There is maybe 1-2% perasitic drag. Your AC compressor is around 20% when it is activated and uses about 10% to maintain cooling. The Altinator, power steering pump and water pump use about 5% so the SC is much less of a drag on the engine then the other accesories that are on there all of the time.
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