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Old 10-11-2009, 10:13 AM   #1
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turbo Automatic?

Wondering if it can be done and if its a smart idea?


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Yes it can, but you wouldnt be able to run lots of boost. Maybe get the car up 180ish hp? You can always boost the car, with low boost then do a tranny swap later on and turn up the boost then.
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Yes it can, but you wouldnt be able to run lots of boost. Maybe get the car up 180ish hp? You can always boost the car, with low boost then do a tranny swap later on and turn up the boost then.
ehhmmm...
And why couldn't he make big power with an ATX??
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I thought the ATX just wouldnt hold up to the big power, at least thats what Ive read on here. Im in no way a expert.
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I thought the ATX just wouldnt hold up to the big power, at least thats what Ive read on here. Im in no way a expert.

The ATX is a strong trans, however the MTX will be more fun in the curves. If you want to go straight, go ATX; if you want to go curves I would say do the MTX for sure. The reason I suggest an ATX for drag racing is a person will never outshift the ECU.

My motor went before the trans did.

If you have questions regarding the power limitations of a ATX I would PM 1turbofocus, he has tried many combination's of parts, motors and trans.

I drove my focus from arizona to arkansas for FF08, non stop. Raced in both the bracket and heads up categories, and raced HARD. Then drove back to arizona, non stop. Torture test for an ATX if you ask me considering I was using nitrous the whole trip...
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And why couldn't he make big power with an ATX??
Are you telling me you think a stock auto is burly? Not sure what kind of autos you're used to, but last time I checked, the auto on a Focus was made to handle 100 lbs/ft of torque. Running 8# of boost will give you ~180 lbs/ft and that's the limit.

If he wants to make big power, he'll have to get a Lentech unit and that ain't cheap. MTX-75 swap is cheaper and people have run 400+ whp through a stock one.
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Are you telling me you think a stock auto is burly? Not sure what kind of autos you're used to, but last time I checked, the auto on a Focus was made to handle 100 lbs/ft of torque. Running 8# of boost will give you ~180 lbs/ft and that's the limit.

If he wants to make big power, he'll have to get a Lentech unit and that ain't cheap. MTX-75 swap is cheaper and people have run 400+ whp through a stock one.
Is the stock burly, no. Neither the MTX OR the ATX IMO. Can you run over 200 on HP on a stock ATX, YES cause I have.

If you want to make big power in an auto I would suggest a shift kit or valve body upgrade. I know plenty of people making good power with autos and a simple valve body upgrade.

My trans is fine and I ran 100 shot set up at my local track here as well as in Arkansas at FF08 because we all wanted to see what would fail first. Nothing failed, pass after pass. 1turbofocus and I were tuning the ECU in between rounds, we were adjusting the trans for everyone that was wondering that day.

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^^^ What kind of times did you run with the 100 shot? I would quess low 14's.
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My point is that you don't have to touch the MTX at all even with big power. A guy with a stock diff even ran 325whp through it. Show me an *untouched* ATX that can do that.
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^^^ What kind of times did you run with the 100 shot? I would quess low 14's.

Ran consistent low 14's on a 75 shot

and for the post looking for an un touched ATX running over 200 hp, again I am right here.

I had a stock ATX that we adjusted with the tuner, no physical changes made. If you want a for sure number as to where to cut the power being given to your ATX before damage, ask 1turbofocus.

Maybe ask the guy that beat me in the heads up class at FF08 I am pretty sure he was procharged but I could be wrong.
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