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Old 04-26-2008, 11:42 PM   #1
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Is my oil drain to low? (3 pics inside)

I need some technical advise guys. My turbo has been leaking a little bit of oil...not enough to make the car start smoking but enough to affect the car at idle. It only seems to do so under load, I can't really confirm this but I'm thinking that maybe it's blowing past the seals in the turbo because the drain is to low. I currently have it tapped in the oil pan towards the top, could this be a problem? Also the slight upward bend of the line looks worse in the pictures than it really is, I know up is bad when you want gravity to do the work for you though...could that also be part of the problem? If I do need to relocate/modify the drain, are the seals of the turbo most likely ruined or will the relief of pressure correct the issue?
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Old 04-26-2008, 11:50 PM   #2
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i wouldnt like it. i would change it.
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I don't like the bung location or the loop that it takes to get there.
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Old 04-27-2008, 02:44 AM   #4
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o concur its routed in a bit of a bad spot. and the downpipe cant be helping the temp any...
id drill and tap a hole on the skirt or something, if theres a place. its a possibilitythat your getting oil backed up into the line since it isnt draining out. and there fore it blows pasth the sea;ls at a certain point.
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Old 04-27-2008, 08:37 AM   #5
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Yes it's too low.
I'd redesign the downpipe because it hangs so low.
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I'm the complete opposite.....

Your oil drain is fine and its NOT whats causing your problem... let me guess you have a Garrett turbo dont you. Garretts seals actually float on a thin layer of oil and under hard boost they can leak a little oil when they are starting to get worn.

As for the oil drain as long as its lower than the outlet of the turbo it'll be fine, as for the dip gravity will take care of that... you could always re route it behind the downpipe and shorten it a little if it makes you feel better.

You also run the oil return line along the front lip of the radiator bracket, letting it touch the radiator wont hurt anything plus it'll give you an extra couple of inches clearence from the downpipe.
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You location of the drain in the pan is fine

You said "My turbo has been leaking a little bit of oil...not enough to make the car start smoking but enough to affect the car at idle. " If you get ANY oil it will smoke , it would have to be smoking like crazy to affect idle , you may want to tweek the tune some

You could drop you pan , move you drain over to the other side of the downpipe in the drivers side of the pan or put a 45 deg fitting in the turbo/pan and put the hose between the down pipe and the engine

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Old 04-27-2008, 09:40 AM   #8
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The turbo is actually turbonetics not a garrett. The car isn't smoking like crazy, but I do smell it burning some oil at times. And I found some oil residue on the MAF sensor, that is what I think is affecting the idle. When I wrote this tune all the trims, spark, etc was dead on for idle and driving, car felt great...then after a couple WOT runs everything was thrown off. I've since cleaned the MAF and I've been driving it around pretty much out of boost now but it's already showing the same signs again. I will try and reroute the drain line between the downpipe and engine and see if I can't get it to be straighter with less of a dip and see what happens.

The turbo itself is still under a year old and as far as I know has been leaking for about 4 months. Originally it started when we changed the oil and we put in royal purple so we thought that the oil was to thin, and changed back to mobil 1. But we are still getting the same thing, since the car has been undergoing other changes and just been driven lightly so much between that time, it really hasn't caused any problems and we thought it was fixed. It wasn't until recently when I started tuning WOT after getting the new 3" MAF that I found out it had been leaking still. Would it be a good idea to send the turbo out to have it inspected to see if the seals need to be replaced or is this something that I could check myself?
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Man this sounds exactly what happened to me. Turbo was 2 months old and sals went bad, got a rebuild kit and rebuilt it
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Old 04-27-2008, 12:33 PM   #10
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This has nothing to do with the oil problem but how hard is it to rebuild a turbo if you've never done it before?
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