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Old 08-27-2006, 12:00 PM   #1
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A painting question for those who have painted vehichles

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Lets say for the sake of argument, I want to paint my car all black. Could I use that automotive spray paint in the can and spray my car with it, then get have it clear coated by a professional later on?

Now some of you or all of you are scratching your head and thinking "why the hell would I want to do that?" Just indulge me. I'm curious. lol


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I wouldn't recommend it. I've used the Auto Spray Paint on an older car I had and it came out like crap. I cleared it, but it lasted only like a year before flakeing off. This wasn't a professional clear coat or paint so that may have had to do something with it. I would recommend buying (or renting) a spray gun and automotive paint from a auto specitalty store. I had a friend who did that and even though he skimped on the prep work (the MOST IMPORTANT PART) it came out pretty nice.
Edit: My friend used a clear coat just so you know.
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I wouldn't recommend it. I've used the Auto Spray Paint on an older car I had and it came out like crap. I cleared it, but it lasted only like a year before flakeing off. This wasn't a professional clear coat or paint so that may have had to do something with it. I would recommend buying (or renting) a spray gun and automotive paint from a auto specitalty store. I had a friend who did that and even though he skimped on the prep work (the MOST IMPORTANT PART) it came out pretty nice.
Edit: My friend used a clear coat just so you know.
I'm thinking that if I did it that way and then get it professionally clear coated, the paint job will last. To me, painting with a spray can is easier for me and I feel I'm better at it. Plus no messy cleanup lol.

I don't know, it was just a thought but if done right, I think it would work. I was thinking of doing it this way because I could spend the winter painting sections of my car and then when spring is here I could have it clear coated professionally.
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Buy high grade sandable paint. Make sure that you sand everything really really really well. After you are done painting. Wet sand, with lots of water, and i mean a lot of water. Duplicolor is pretty good stuff, hence the price of it per can. I have done this before and have produced a paint job that looks like i paid a lot for it. Oh, make sure that you get sandable clear coat. Duplicolor makes it to be compatible with their color match line of paints. I used 8 coats of it, sanding between every other. (all wet sanding) On the last coat, I west sanded until all was smooth and flat looking, then buff with a faom pad and medium compound. Then fine compound. It honestly looked perfect, and a YEAR later, still does. No one has any idea that i rattle can'd my car, until i tell them. Most don't beleive me when they look at it.

{edit} be fore you start painting, after sanding, BE SURE to use a de-waxing agent on the whole surface to be painted. After you do that, DO NOT TOUCH with your bare hands. You'll leave oil from your hands that will prevent the pain from bonding to the surface properly.

You might be surprised what you can actually do with a rattle can, if it's good quality paint.

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Buy high grade sandable paint. Make sure that you sand everything really really really well. After you are done painting. Wet sand, with lots of water, and i mean a lot of water. Duplicolor is pretty good stuff, hence the price of it per can. I have done this before and have produced a paint job that looks like i paid a lot for it. Oh, make sure that you get sandable clear coat. Duplicolor makes it to be compatible with their color match line of paints. I used 8 coats of it, sanding between every other. (all wet sanding) On the last coat, I west sanded until all was smooth and flat looking, then buff with a faom pad and medium compound. Then fine compound. It honestly looked perfect, and a YEAR later, still does. No one has any idea that i rattle can'd my car, until i tell them. Most don't beleive me when they look at it.

{edit} be fore you start painting, after sanding, BE SURE to use a de-waxing agent on the whole surface to be painted. After you do that, DO NOT TOUCH with your bare hands. You'll leave oil from your hands that will prevent the pain from bonding to the surface properly.

You might be surprised what you can actually do with a rattle can, if it's good quality paint.


Have fun and good luck man

Hey thats cool. I was thinking of using dupilcolor for everything other than the clear coat. Clear coat would be done professionally. Should I sand down to the metal or no? I also have a 2 rust spots that I need to fix. When sanding, I should sand down to the metal on those rust spots, right? And when I primer the vehicle, could I use that rustoleum primer or whatever its called or should I just stick with one brand like Duplicolor?
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Use something with a rust inhibitor that is sandable. On the rust spots, sand to bare metal but don't let it get exposed to moisture. There are rust disolving agents that you can get at the auto store. don't handle then with bare hands. They can get into the pores of the surface and "kill" the rust. prime those spots as soon as possible. Other than rust spots, don't sand to bare metal. It's more work than it's worth. you shouldn't need to prime the whole vehicle, just the rust spots. Especially if you're painting black. Old color won't show through. You might want to pick up a Haynes, or Chilton manual for you car, they actually have a decent amount of direction on how to do body work, rust repair, and painting procedures. No one taught me, i just read the books and went for it. Keep in mind DO NOT wet sand primer. it is porus (meaning that it has little bitty, teeny tiny holes in it) you will get moisture back to the bare metal which will cause it to rust.

All i have done is give you just a little more than BASIC painting information. Go buy a book and really learn what you are about to do. It's worth it, trust me.
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