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Old 05-29-2005, 07:48 AM   #1
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Help, technique for starting up an extreme hill in manual

There are some unbelievably steep private roads and drive ways and I have a really hard time starting up from dead stop on them.

How steep?

1. The car will roll back unless you pull on the e-brake extremely hard.
2. If you're in reverse, let it roll just slightly and let out the clutch. The car will start in reverse(the lowest gear, meaning the smallest mechanical advantage for starting the engine from momentum)

Even using the e-brake method, I roll back slightly or I burn out like crazy and when I don't successfully take off, the car starts to roll back amazingly fast and its intimidating. What are tips to successfully pull this?

I know its not an every day thing, but say if I visited someone who is above such a drive way or I lived in such place. How hard would it be once you get used to it?


Say you have to parallel park on one of these. I could pull it in automatic by using both feet, is it even possible in a manual?


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Old 05-29-2005, 10:45 AM   #2
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it's all about being comfortable driving stick and being comfortable with your particular car/clutch.

you have to know the point at which your cluch engages so you can manipulate your car without revving like mad and spinning out.

basically, there are no "techniques", just practice.
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Old 05-29-2005, 03:02 PM   #3
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Yeah, no techniques really... using the parking brake helps, but you really shouldn't need it.

Maybe find a hill to practice on.
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Old 05-29-2005, 04:20 PM   #4
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This is how my dad taught me....

park your car as you would on a very steep hill... except park in front of a very expensive car such as a lexus, or a range rover will do just fine.. and practice as you would...

trust me, you will get the hang of it...


otherwise, try finding a small hill, and practice rolling back and forth til you no longer stall or slip tires..
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You definitely have to Practice. Once you feel comfortable with your car/clutch, it won't be a problem parking on a steep hil.

I remember when I first learned how to drive a manual, I was so nervous parking my car on a steep hill. I would avoid it at all costs. Than I started practicing, and felt more comfortable with the clutch, it wasn't really an issue anymore.

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I have been able to handle it on steep hills, but this one extremely steep hill, I'm always intimidated by.
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Old 05-30-2005, 06:38 AM   #7
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the area i live in has quite steep hills as well, apart from normal clutch control i also park with the wheels on steering lock pointing into road, then just roll back so tyres contact kerb - this way if ur handbrake aint upto it u still wont roll back.

i have seen two examples of cars flying down hills when their handbrakes failed.... it aint pretty!
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The way i was taught here in the states, is your supposed to park with wheels facing curb. That way if your e-brake fails your car doesn't go lauching in the road into oncoming traffic. Something i learned at driving school way back in the day


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Don't rely on a handbrake -that skinny little steel cable breaks quite commonly.
You should be able to start on a steep hill without ebrake with practice, heel/toe control can help.

You should always park with wheels turned to the curb, steering locked, car in gear and ebrake on. Too bad that doesn't stop dorks from banging into you while parked.
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I do the gas/clutch technique on a lot of hills, I guess it tricks the car in thinking it's moving, but your just standing still, so you ballance out the clutch and the gas, usually rpm should be between 1,000 and 2,000 and it shouldn't go anywhere, so just use that technique, it helps a lot.
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