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Old 11-19-2004, 07:34 PM   #1
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Hello everybody. I am a locksmith in New Zealand and have had to "come to the pro's" so to speak to ask for information. Recently we had a call out to a dead-locked Focus and found ourselves in the awkward situation of not being able to open the car. The owner called after his keys were stolen and after we explained that we could not just cut him another key because they use a crypto transponder, he asked us to go out and just open the vehicle so he could get it towed to safety. To cut a long story short, the locksmith tried all his skill to get in but found he was unable to. It was nearing midnight and in sheer desperation the owner of the car took the last option and smashed a window with a hammer! NOW, that is a cardinal sin in the locksmith world - but apparently there was no other option for gaining entry into his car. Unless... any of you are willing/able to impart that knowledge. Please don't be hesitant to pass on any knowledge or experiences on how to "break in" to a locked Focus. Many locksmith businesses will benefit when we pass it on and avoid the embarassing situation we have had to come to terms with. Thanks in anticipation. Direct email to me: toper@xtra.co.nz


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I used a coat hanger and pulled the interior door handle to open mine. Pried the door open with a prybar and rags(no scratch) just enough to put the CH in.
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I locked my keys in my car and the locksmith used a slim jim to open it. He did it in like 10 seconds. I'm not sure how though. Sorry I can't help you more.
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Old 11-19-2004, 10:37 PM   #4
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I doubt a REAL locksmith wouldn't know about a slim-jim!
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The European Focus may be much harder to break into so to speak...
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I doubt a REAL locksmith wouldn't know about a slim-jim!
He did drive a beat up Ford Aerostar. Maybe he has his own home run business. But who cares? He got the job done.
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Wouldn't the difficulty in using a "slim-jim vary depending on whether or not the locks were automatic? :/
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With the right tools its very easy to unlock the doors...I've seen it done to my Focus. There's a U shaped tool that reaches underneath the window and opens the door from the inside. As for getting a new key for the ignition...he's going to have to go to the dealer for that since it requires the transponders to be activated.
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Re: How to get into dead-locked vehicle???

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Hello everybody. I am a locksmith in New Zealand and have had to "come to the pro's" so to speak to ask for information. Recently we had a call out to a dead-locked Focus and found ourselves in the awkward situation of not being able to open the car. The owner called after his keys were stolen and after we explained that we could not just cut him another key because they use a crypto transponder...
You gave him really bad advice and cost him a window. You _can_ cut another key, that will get you into the car, you just can't start the car with that key. I have a hidden non-transponder key just for this purpose.
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Old 11-29-2004, 05:53 PM   #10
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All us US Focus owners need to realize that Euro Foci (and most of the rest of the world's as well) have what is called a dead-lock system in addition to the car's normal door locks. I've been reading U.K. car magazines for almost 15 years now and i always see it in the specs tables. Unfortunately, being a Yank, i haven't actually got to play with a Euro car, but I am under the impression that their dead-lock systems are quite literally deadbolts. I know in the U.K. at least, car theft is a HUGE problem (find a new car there that doesn't have dead-locks and an engine immobilzer, even without any other security system, at the very least and it would surprise me). I think this may be why we in the US have the transponder key to begin with, since the Focus is a European design. As for a remedy to the problem of getting in one that's deadlocked, maybe some of the U.K. owners her have some ideas.
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