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Old 07-21-2011, 02:31 AM   #1
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Optima batteries??

Optima batteries, does anyone have one I going battery shoping this weekend i'd like to get a Optima but i'm a member on a ranger forum and we had a discussion on optima a while back and they metioned thye are worth the price and there quality has gone down the drain over the years. An I'd be better off getting a diehard or something, whata think?? If so which sould I get yellow, or red top?


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Old 07-21-2011, 05:11 AM   #2
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Odyssey

or Diehard Platinum (rebadged Odyssey, and often cheaper)


I've heard the same thing about Optimas not being as good as they once were on my toyota 4x4 site.............
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Optima's quality went downhill after the company was bought by Johnson Controls in (about) November of 2000.

I've seen many complaints about them and haven't heard anyone say they last near as long as the originals. I got ~10 years out of mine from early 2001. Have acquaintances with recent ones who've only got 3 years out of theirs.

It's up to you.
Personally I won't buy another one.
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You have to care for an Optima differently. Some people don't understand that, and they kill them prematurely.

While I worked at Autozone, I had only 5 Optima's come in. The battery tester read them all as bad, nobody wanted to try and revive them.

Only one of them I couldn't restore because it had a blown cell, the others were still kickin'!

I put an 05 Optima blue top to work on my friends truck last year. Still kickin', and was dead as a dodo when it came in.

I keep telling the owners, they are just sleeping not dead.
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I have one. They dont make a battery that will fit into the focus battery box. I have one and unless you have a big system (I do not) They really arent worth it.
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They are totally worth it. Go into an autozone with an employee 20% discount = $40 off your optima straight away. Then another $12 off for a garbage core. Now you've saved over $50, and they are only a little more expensive than the others. The extra bones on the battery is worth the peace of mind knowing it'll start every morning.

1) They last twice as long as a regular battery
2) They make great utility batteries (powering chargers, tools, various electronics, etc)
3) They don't care which way is up.
4) Incredibly shock resistant
5) Powerful!
6) Deep cycle (must be driven/trickle charged regularly)

If the most strenuous thing your car sees is the school run, you don't need/want one. If you have a race car, a sound system, a truck that you bash around, etc, then you'd be looking at an Optima.
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I really don't get why Optimas are so popular. My experience with them was a bit unusual, but from what I saw they are JUNK. Especially the Red Tops.

I had never heard of an Optima before 2008, when I was in Iraq. Some of you may know that the military's supply system is incredibly screwed up. For several months, we were unable to get any new automotive-type batteries for our fleet of forklifts, backhoes, ditch witches, and various other small pieces of equipment. We had bigger batteries with threaded posts for the bigger equipment, but no ordinary top-post batteries for smaller stuff. I pretty much had a route every morning where I went around and jump started forklifts all over Al Asad.

My boss found a whole pallet of Optima Red Tops in a warehouse yard. I don't know who they belonged to, but he made some kind of deal with the warehouse boss man and he got the batteries. I was stoked. I was glad that I would get a break from my jump-start routine. So we started installing them, and it turns out that about 2/3 of them were dead. We tried jump starting and letting it run, we tried fast charging, we tried trickle charging. None of it made any difference. The ones that actually worked only lasted a couple of months.

Maybe those batteries had been sitting in the desert heat for a few years, I don't know. I just know that they claim to be the Most-Awesome-Battery-Known-To-Man, and they were CRAP. Later on I ended up putting two Optima Yellow Top batteries in my service truck. I certainly didn't want them, but they were the only thing available at the time. Those did work, just like any battery should. I didn't notice anything special about them.

I've had Walmart batteries last for 6 or 7 years in Tennessee. Maybe it's worth paying for a premium battery up north, I don't know, but if you're in a reasonable climate, any new battery will work.
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Odyssey

or Diehard Platinum (rebadged Odyssey, and often cheaper)


I've heard the same thing about Optimas not being as good as they once were on my toyota 4x4 site.............
Yea I think I'll be going with this^^ I heard all the same stuff that everyone else is saying on the ranger forums.

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They are totally worth it. Go into an autozone with an employee 20% discount = $40 off your optima straight away. Then another $12 off for a garbage core. Now you've saved over $50, and they are only a little more expensive than the others. The extra bones on the battery is worth the peace of mind knowing it'll start every morning.

1) They last twice as long as a regular battery
2) They make great utility batteries (powering chargers, tools, various electronics, etc)
3) They don't care which way is up.
4) Incredibly shock resistant
5) Powerful!
6) Deep cycle (must be driven/trickle charged regularly)

If the most strenuous thing your car sees is the school run, you don't need/want one. If you have a race car, a sound system, a truck that you bash around, etc, then you'd be looking at an Optima.
I just cruise on the weekends and drive to work on the weekdays. Yea I don't have much of a life work and marrage pretty much takes all that away. lol The last thing I need is a high maintenance paper weight in a DD. I already have one in the passenger seat.
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I've had Optima batteries in my last 2 cars... I have seen no difference what so ever over the standard stock batteries, hadn't owned them long enough to see the difference in overall life though.
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1) They last twice as long as a regular battery
2) They make great utility batteries (powering chargers, tools, various electronics, etc)
3) They don't care which way is up.
4) Incredibly shock resistant
5) Powerful!
6) Deep cycle (must be driven/trickle charged regularly)

If the most strenuous thing your car sees is the school run, you don't need/want one. If you have a race car, a sound system, a truck that you bash around, etc, then you'd be looking at an Optima.
Most people need a battery that will start the car. That is all a battery does. For a second or so, it is needed to turn the starter. For me:

1. Thinking back over the years, I don't believe I have ever had to replace a battery more than once in a vehicle. Buy a car, the existing battery lasts 3,4,5 years, then replace the battery. 4 or 5 years later, the car is wrecked, sold or traded with that same battery.
2. Car battery, stays in the car.
3. My Focus cares which way is up. If it isn't right side up, I have more to worry about than a battery.
4. If there is a shock to my Focus powerful enough to hurt the battery, the Focus's next trip is probably to the body shop.
5. A standard battery has plenty of power to start the Focus. Extreme heat and cold are tough on a battery and we have both in Oklahoma, where standard batteries work just fine, for many years.
6. Don't want to have to think about how to treat a battery. The car's electrical system is designed to take care of the charging. Check the water a couple of times a year and make sure nothing is corroding. No more thought required. It is a battery for goodness sakes.
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