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Old 06-29-2011, 07:59 AM   #1
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A bit worried about the Focus ST being undercut by the competition

Mainly, the mazdaspeed 3. more horsepower and torque, but not as many electronic gizmos on the inside. Problem is, I've hear the Focus ST will be closer to 27,000, than 25,000. at this point, I really think the MS3 is a much more enjoyable car to drive. It is VERY ugly, but it's looks have grown on me a bit (It's not as offensive in black).

How do you feel the cars will compare?



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It's hard to say. We have almost no figures or stats on the Focus ST. Will it be lighter than the MS3? Will it have revoknuckle? Good gas milage? Better handling?

All of that is up in the air right now.

One thing is for certain though: It's going to look a hell of a lot better than the MS3.
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yes...such a shame, too. I dont know what Mazda is smoking. Great engine, but truly hideous looks. WHAT ARE YOU THINKING, mazda?

It would be the most amazing thing on earth if the focus ST could start at 25 base.
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you can't compare a car we no little to nothing about.
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I'm sure once the car is out, there will be some hot hatch shoot outs in the magazines (or even better on Top Gear.) If the car costs slightly more than the ms3 but is still just as quick or faster and handles great, the cost difference wont really matter. Just going on looks, which just about all we can do now; the Focus at least looks better imo.

Not too much of a point for us to speculate this early yet, we'll just have to wait and see
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That LOL face on the MS3 is a tragedy. Bad for Mazda, good for the Focus.
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. at this point, I really think the MS3 is a much more enjoyable car to drive.
Your mind is already made up, unless your statement is just fluff.
Please tell us the why the new Focus ST is not as enjoyable as the MS3.
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Your mind is already made up, unless your statement is just fluff.
Please tell us the why the new Focus ST is not as enjoyable as the MS3.
I should've said, that I *imagine* the MS3 is more fun to drive. Higher horsepower, and (I think) torque. We don't know anything about the focus ST, so the point is a bit moot. it'd be nice if Ford would throw us a few more details.
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Go to FocusFest and talk to the guys that designed it. They should be able to give you some insight.
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hmmm... based off rumors

'10 Mazda Speed3

Curb Weight 3245lbs
HP: 263
Torque: 280

Rumored Specs for '12 Ford Focus ST
Curb Weight:(Based off Titanium package) 2948lbs
HP: 250
Torque: 266

so yeah it's not a significant difference considering the weight of the car, newer technology, and looks

and yeah the new ST looks amazing



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