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Old 05-26-2011, 09:21 PM   #1
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2012 6-spd auto impressions

I'm just curious as to what those of you think about the new 6-speed auto? I've had my '12 for about a month now and I'm luke warm on it. On the highway its as smooth as ice, but in the city it shifts like a sloppy manual transmission driver. I just can't seem to drive the way the car wants to be driven. The only reason i went with this over the manual is because I couldn't wait 2 months to order it, as the gas prices were killing me.

Anyone else having similar stories? Does anyone know of any firmware updates for the transmission? Or is this something I just have to learn to get used to?


 
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Old 05-26-2011, 11:05 PM   #2
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I'm just curious as to what those of you think about the new 6-speed auto? I've had my '12 for about a month now and I'm luke warm on it. On the highway its as smooth as ice, but in the city it shifts like a sloppy manual transmission driver. I just can't seem to drive the way the car wants to be driven. The only reason i went with this over the manual is because I couldn't wait 2 months to order it, as the gas prices were killing me.

Anyone else having similar stories? Does anyone know of any firmware updates for the transmission? Or is this something I just have to learn to get used to?
You just need to give it some break in time. Mine did that at first but now I'm at about 1100 miles and its smooth all the time.
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I have the same transmission. I agree with you. That is just how the double clutch acts. I have driven a 2009 BMW m3 with the same type of transmission and it was worse.
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Yep, it's just how dual clutch transmissions are (regardless of manufacturer). It feels like a sloppy manual because technically it is a manual. There is no torque converter to smoothen things out. The major benefit you get from this is having more power delivered directly to the wheels. As a result you get better fuel economy and performance. That's the tradeoff involved with these transmissions.

Some break-in period may help, but I wouldn't expect to see any dramatic improvement. Maybe in time manufacturers will find a way to soften dual clutch transmissions without castrating its performance. But for now this is what the technology has to offer. Personally I like that notchy feeling and knowing what my car is doing. But I understand how it could be worrisome for owners of previous traditional automatics.
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I have a VW TDI with the DSG tranny, as well as the '12 focus auto. Out of the box the VW is hands down a smoother transmission, especially on the 1-2 shift. My expectation is that the Focus needs to be driven a bit and will smooth out with time. I do wish Ford would have gone with a lever shift or paddles instead of the silly little up/down arrow. The VW is just more inutuitive, as was my mercedes.

However, I tend to drive in sport mode most of the time.

I spend to much time in stop and go traffic, and will most likely never own a standard again. Getting old and lazy, I guess. And while I am sure the clutch on a focus is fairly light my knees just are not up to it anymore.

With all that said, I have been "focused" on some other issues with the car and have yet to really pay attention to the finer points of actually driving it.
The difference between dry dual clutch (Ford's PowerShift) and wet dual clutch (VW's DSG) might have something to do with the rough shifting too. I also think VW's DSG shifts a little smoother. However dry dual clutch transmissions have the added benefit of not requiring a routine fluid flush. They each have their own set of tradeoffs when it comes to that.
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I have a VW TDI with the DSG tranny, as well as the '12 focus auto. Out of the box the VW is hands down a smoother transmission, especially on the 1-2 shift. My expectation is that the Focus needs to be driven a bit and will smooth out with time. I do wish Ford would have gone with a lever shift or paddles instead of the silly little up/down arrow. The VW is just more inutuitive, as was my mercedes.

However, I tend to drive in sport mode most of the time.

I spend to much time in stop and go traffic, and will most likely never own a standard again. Getting old and lazy, I guess. And while I am sure the clutch on a focus is fairly light my knees just are not up to it anymore.

With all that said, I have been "focused" on some other issues with the car and have yet to really pay attention to the finer points of actually driving it.
im pretty sure aftermarket "paddle-shift" kits will be available anytime soon for the powershift.
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im pretty sure aftermarket "paddle-shift" kits will be available anytime soon for the powershift.
Where the heck would they put them? Have you seen the steering wheel on this car?
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The transmission is super smooth most off the time. Its just a matter of learning how to drive it so that it does not shutter. Also, good point about waiting for the car to be broken in enough. I also really enjoy driving in the S mode, the shifting is great!

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Where the heck would they put them? Have you seen the steering wheel on this car?
The end cap on the directional lever doesn't have anything on it, so make it a little toggle switch(the right stalk for wipers has the rear wiper control on the end cap).

I agree, there are already a LOT of controls on and around the wheel already. It took me some time to find where the rear wiper control was hidden. Here's a thought, if a manual transmission makes you shift on the gear shift lever, then it makes MORE sense that the SelectShift also be in the same place, though I would prefer the more conventional forward/back push/pull action for these things.
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The end cap on the directional lever doesn't have anything on it, so make it a little toggle switch(the right stalk for wipers has the rear wiper control on the end cap).

I agree, there are already a LOT of controls on and around the wheel already. It took me some time to find where the rear wiper control was hidden. Here's a thought, if a manual transmission makes you shift on the gear shift lever, then it makes MORE sense that the SelectShift also be in the same place, though I would prefer the more conventional forward/back push/pull action for these things.
I'd prefer to see the push / pull action on the shift lever as well as opposed to yet another control option on the end of a stalk. I think they just didn't have the room to incorporate it. I think if I was going to choose between a button on the end of the directional stalk and a button on the side of the shift lever I'd go with the shift lever hands down.
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