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Old 01-31-2010, 09:21 PM   #1
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Focus - one of 5 Small Car Money Pits, U.S. News

This can't be good - especially right now. And a Toyota recommended instead?

"Ford Focus

MSRP: $15,995 - $18,485

The Focus attracts affordable car shoppers who want the option to add a few extra bells and whistles. It doesn’t afford much in the way of performance or cargo capacity, but features Ford’s popular Sync infotainment system -- standard on all trims but the base. Also standard is MyKey, which promotes safe driving habits in teens by allowing parents to limit their top speed to 80 mph, disable the audio system when seatbelts are not in use and sound a persistent chime when the vehicle’s speed hits 45, 55 and 65 mph.

Despite its cool gadgets, the Focus earns an IntelliChoice value rating of “Poor” to “Below Average.” And while the base model nets a total five-year TCO estimate of $29,630, the highest trim’s TCO is $34,220.

Better Buy: The Honda Civic provides more value and sacrifices little in the way of safety. With so many Civic trims and packages available, IntelliChoice offers numerous value ratings. However, most standard models earn an “Above Average” to “Excellent” Rating. While the base-model DX Coupe’s total five-year TCO is estimated at $21,190, the standard EX-L’s is pegged at $31,278. In 2009, many Civic trims received IntelliChoice’s “SmartChoice” award for retained value.

Scion tC

MSRP: $17,000 - $17,800

While the Focus appeals to parents, the tC is aimed squarely at teens and young adults. It’s not as powerful or sporty as some competitors, but it sure looks the part. Plus, Scion lets drivers customize their rides with a wide selection of tuner options. And though its three-year/36,000-mile basic warranty and five-year/60,000-mile powertrain warranty are basic for the class of affordable small cars, Scion is a product of Toyota -- which has a reputation for building reliable vehicles.......
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:24 PM   #2
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they are smoking some serious weed....

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Old 01-31-2010, 09:26 PM   #3
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i hope they get kidnapped by crystal meth tweakers!!!!!!!!!
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:35 PM   #4
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This article is based on the current Focus, not the new one coming out...

I would argue the TC is a better base car than the current Focus...
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Well...I would have rated the '09 Focus at the bottom of all those listed, because of a transmission failure @ 7,000 miles.

I decided to give Ford 1 more chance, as the ricer equivalents were crap too.

I haven't had any trouble out of my '10, and hope it stays that way.

Ford makes lemons, just as every other auto manufacturer on the planet does. It happens.

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Well...I would have rated the '09 Focus at the bottom of all those listed, because of a transmission failure @ 7,000 miles.

I decided to give Ford 1 more chance, as the ricer equivalents were crap too.

I haven't had any trouble out of my '10, and hope it stays that way.

Ford makes lemons, just as every other auto manufacturer on the planet does. It happens.

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Yes, I would agree with you here as to putting the Focus towards the bottom of the list as well. Granted I like my car a lot but that doesn't change my opinion about it. American cars for the most part retain very little value which is why I will drive mine around until it falls to pieces or just dies on me. Even as you said every manufactor has their bad cars out there that seem to have permanent gremlins in it. But for the 100 good things you hear about a car it's always that one bad statement that you remember and read about constantly. Society thrives on negativity.
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It seems that Ford is really putting out some quality cars finally, not that I know it for a fact, but just my opinion from looking at a few in recent car shows and seeing what they are coming out with as far as new and updated models go. Hard to compete with Honda or Toyota though, both of those cars you know will be fantastic cars long term, and will hold their value 100x better. I have always been more of import person though so I am a little biased. It seems that Ford is on the right track though, finally a domestic company making economical cars instead of unpractical, unnecessary, gas guzzling trucks and suv's that are just silly in every aspect,(a big IMO there). Although its all determined by the consumer... I think Ford has the right idea and is on the up and up, and I'm excited to see what will happen. Finally a domestic company we can be proud of. I think I watch too much Top Gear
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Posted via FF Mobile This list really makes no sense. First off gow is a civic less expensive to run then the focus. First off a civic cost more then a focus, it gets worse gas mileage and the parts for the car are more expensive. How did they come up with this info? Also I bet the civic cost more to insure too. And then the mini cooper is lesscostlythen most of the cars on the list....What? Lol the mini is a great car but again, way pricy sticker and the parts will be hella expensive. Yea the mini comes with no cost maintance but thats for 3 years.

List makes no sense dont know how they came up with the numbers at all. I think it is important to also consider cost of ownership but it seems they are missing some key factors in their decision like cost of parts and insurance.
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they most likely specced all that out being a 30 something year old person. (dude who probably did this lamewad report was most liekley in his mid 30's) my guess is he owns a prius too.
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Old 02-01-2010, 05:39 AM   #10
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If you go to the link on the Focus and look at the cost to own and then the details you get the true picture. The Focus has lower maintance costs, costs less to insure and gets better gas mileage. It simply depreciates more than the Honda. Now if your like me and drive a vehicle for a long time before buying a new one (until the wheels fall off, lol) this doesn't matter unless you total it. In fact this can work to your advantage since it would make you pay less property tax to the state each year.
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