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Old 01-22-2010, 04:16 PM   #1
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Top Gear's top cars of 2009

So I'm not even sure if this is made by Top Gear or not but it wasn't too bad.

Focus didn't win Hot Hatch of the year...

....won something else though.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ssGb...FRHxDAodGzFl3g


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Focus as a muscle car and two cars on there (Ferrari 458 and the AMG SLS Gullwing) aren't even available for sale yet... not sure what to say.
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Focus as a muscle car and two cars on there (Ferrari 458 and the AMG SLS Gullwing) aren't even available for sale yet... not sure what to say.
The focus is for sale in Europe.... Its the current RS, not the new one...
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that is not top gear that is a load of bull, i love my focus but there is absolutely no way a focus would be voted muscle car of the year. its rubbish as they have given an award to a prius which they all despise. the video is not top gear
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A. First thing I said was I didn't think it was even made by them.

B. Pretty sure having the RS as muscle car of the year is saying it's a beast of a car.
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I want my RS...NOW!

Does Ford think bringing the RS over at the same time the new Focus/Fiesta models are introduced, will dampen sales of them? Hell yeah!

Now, bring it over! Buyers just might wait to see if the RS shows up after the new Focus/Fiesta intro.

I'll be waiting.

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The RS won't be made for a couple years, so we won't know if we get it for a while...
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Gee, where have I heard that before?

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B. Pretty sure having the RS as muscle car of the year is saying it's a beast of a car.
No. Muscle cars are NA, have V8s, and are rear wheel drive. Despite the almost unholy and at times sickening cult following of the Focus RS on this board, it's not in any way a "muscle" car. I don't care what kind of clever differential Ford comes up with or torque limiting systems like Mazdas. 300BHP in FWD is still Fail Wheel Drive.

Now if we were talking a Focus RS with an AWD like Mitsubishi's...then the attention would be well-founded. As it stands, what, assuming it comes over, is its competition? The Speed3. Fail Wheel Drive again. For the 25K you'll pay for a nice one, just plop down the extra 5 G's and get a Ralliart Lancer.
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No. Muscle cars are NA, have V8s, and are rear wheel drive. Despite the almost unholy and at times sickening cult following of the Focus RS on this board, it's not in any way a "muscle" car. I don't care what kind of clever differential Ford comes up with or torque limiting systems like Mazdas. 300BHP in FWD is still Fail Wheel Drive.

A muscle car is a mid sized car with a large/powerful motor. There's no written rule that it has to have an n/a v8. You're thinking old school. Would you consider a mustang with an ecoboost v6 muscle? I think so. Would a v10 powered mustang be muscle, again, I think so. Also, conceptions and attitudes of vehicles overseas are much different than ours. I would say it is fair to consider the RS somewhat muscle. RS, a fail? That discredits everything you have said right there....
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There's no written rule that it has to have an n/a v8. You're thinking old school. Would you consider a mustang with an ecoboost v6 muscle? I think so. Would a v10 powered mustang be muscle, again, I think so. Also, conceptions and attitudes of vehicles overseas are much different than ours. I would say it is fair to consider the RS somewhat muscle. RS, a fail? That discredits everything you have said right there....
The RS and its fanboys are still fail. Would you really want 300BHP in a FWD DD? I doubt it, unless you'd like to torque steer into a tree. With all the damn hype it gets on this board, it should be a WRC version.

But its place on that "list" is fail anyway because it's not a Top Gear list. They pretty much consider old school as muscle cars, and they certainly hate the Prius.

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So we're gonna call the Altima SE-R and and STi muscle cars now too? If you let the meaning be that general, then really you're calling 70% of performance sedans muscle cars, what with BMW and all. Just let the definition be one type of car.
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