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Old 08-08-2009, 08:11 PM   #1
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2003 SVT Vs. 2007 ST Comparison ?

I currently am the recent owner of a 2003 SVT 3 door hatch with 32K miles. It's a bit rough around the edges (needs O2 sensors, CD player broken, lots of vibration and clutch noise) but lots of fun to drive, and very well equipped. I had previously read nothing but good about the Focus, in particular the SVT. I won't lie, I paid $6200 for the car.

However, all the little bits are starting to add up: I purchased OEM wheels (it has a set of Konigs that I'm not wild about), I purchased a used OEM exhaust system since the car had a MagnaFlow system on it that was too loud for my taste, and a number of little things... and I'm deliberating over doing the clutch/flywheel because of the noise and vibration at idle.

I recently stumbled on a 2007 Focus ST with 6,300 miles, with similar (loaded) equipment and not far off in price: $9,900. This car would have the balance of the warranty, but would lack the 6th gear, HID headlights, and sportier demeanor of the SVT. However, it would add rear doors, more space, and be rid of all the little quirks my SVT has.

From what I've read, the ST 5-speed doesn't suffer from the flywheel related problems the SVT seemed to have, and has the same torque at lower rpms (aka more driveable in the midrange).

I guess I'm just torn between trying to sell the car I was originally so intent on, spending a bit more on a newer car, and going through all the hassle and expense of getting mine fixed back to what it should be.

Opinions? Anyone here own both?

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Old 08-08-2009, 09:40 PM   #2
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I say the 2.3 ST FTW for a lot different reasons, but I already know what direction this thread is headed...All the ST owners will tell you to buy the newer less mileage ST and all the SVT owners telling you to spend a little money fixing the SVT.
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Old 08-08-2009, 09:44 PM   #3
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I would be interested in hearing what those reasons are... safety, space, ride?

How is fuel economy between the 2? I know the ST is 2.3 Vs. 2.0 in my SVT, but I believe the EPA estimates are similar...

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Personally I would probably go with the ST. It's newer, just as fast, and might save you money in the long run.

I'm neither a SVT or an ST owner so idk how credible this is, just what i would do.
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Old 08-08-2009, 09:50 PM   #5
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honestly if you can fix the problems wit hthe SVT you might as well keep it. its a great car and once you get that clutch problem fixed youll be golden.

i have the original clutch at 90k and its still fine.

you can get an o2 sensor on ebay for less than 30$

you can get a rear o2 delete for 20$...its a lil electrical plug in cheater

you can get a LUK replacement clutch for about 400$

so less than 500$ your SVT will love you.

and you can sell those konigs on craigslist and prolly make up 1/2 the cost of those repairs


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Old 08-08-2009, 09:51 PM   #6
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The SVT is faster stock vs stock ( not by a big margain at all). The SVT IMO is a nicer overall package. The Getrag 6 spd transmission is great and the car is just so much fun to drive. Not to mention the interior is nicer too ( once again, just my opinion)
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Well for one thing the 2.3 durtec responds very well to bolt ons..A decent exhaust with a CAI and your well on your way to having a very nice platform. From what Ive read the SVT seems to have lots of issues. I say test drive the ST then make the decision for yourself
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the SVT has alot of issues? where do you get your information? it seems kinda biased since you drive an ST lol.


the only problem my 90k SVT has had were vacuum leaks from OLD vacuum hoses. thats probably the most common problem. oooooo a whole 12$ fix.
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The ST's are very nice! Although not as extreme interior or exterior wise as the SVT IMO it's more of a "grown up and sexy" version of a fast focus...

The ST is only 2 tenths of a sec slower to 60 and in the quarter mile but keep in mind thats with a very restrictive non-serviceable air intake system...

I noticed you say you only have 32k miles on your SVT? If I had an SVT already I would keep it... If I had the money to fix it up... however as a very happy ST owner I must say I really love my car...

If I were you I would go drive the ST and see how you feel afterwards...
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djslurp have you driven an svt? its not only the motor on sterioids its also the suspension and brakes.

sure st's are nice, but for an overall better package the SVT dominates
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