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Old 01-28-2009, 04:58 PM   #1
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Is the Focus scene reputable?

Looking at some VW and Honda sites I started to notice that aftermarket parts and modifying tastes for our cars hasn't really evolved past the tastes of the early millenium, while others have and gone on to be much more professional and unique. For instance you still see neon, large bodykits, etc. etc, while those types of mods would get flamed alive on other sites.

You just don't see the real high quality builds proliferate our scene like theirs. Of course there are a few examples but hold that percentage up to the VW or honda community and its just not as impressive. It just seems to be apparent that most of the time this community is looking for the cheapest/easiest modification instead of a truly unique and quality one.

What are your opinions?

I am not flaming I would just like to start an open discussion.


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Old 01-28-2009, 05:06 PM   #2
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the honda/vw scenes are huge. the focus scene isn't. it makes sense that there would be more parts and ideas for those scenes.
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:14 PM   #3
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the honda/vw scenes are huge. the focus scene isn't. it makes sense that there would be more parts and ideas for those scenes.
I don't think size has anything to do it, I don't see the drive to do quality builds.
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Tough question.....But if what you say is true, perhaps it's because the average person who drives a Focus, does so because it's a low-end model (cheaper). And that same person who may want to mod his car, is more likely to spend less doing so, simply because he cannot afford the fancier mods.

Myself....I like doing changes to this Focus, but nothing major cause I'm cheap.
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Old 01-28-2009, 05:26 PM   #5
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Tough question.....But if what you say is true, perhaps it's because the average person who drives a Focus, does so because it's a low-end model (cheaper). And that same person who may want to mod his car, is more likely to spend less doing so, simply because he cannot afford the fancier mods.

Myself....I like doing changes to this Focus, but nothing major cause I'm cheap.
Well see its not even about spending money really since high dollars don't necessarly mean good modifications either, its really just that drive to make it really something special that I believe is missing.

For instance, you for instance make many cheap functional mods that I think are really creative. You do these cheap things not because they are a shortcut but to mod your car and not spend a load of dough, while increasing functionality.

However, the attitude that bothers me are those that say, "I have no cash but want to mod, whats the cheapest way to do it." Instead of just saving for the quality mods. This causes tacky cars, and is the reason I see so many ebay lights, intakes, cheap HID's people asking for the cheapest way to do boost, etc. That is the venemous attitude toward modding that is not as present in other communities

I mean the Focus is such a great platform to start yet people don't want to mod it to actually give the Focus a good reputation. I mean I am not rolling it in right now. I'm in college, I paid for my car, and I buy what I can. I wished for boost a long time ago but realized I couldn't do it the right way or that it wasn't the best use for my money so I dropped the plans. I wanted new wheels and neither cheaped out at wheelmax nor bought pricey sets, I purchased a set that I saved for but the quality was still there. I never once set to make boost or wheels happen by finding the cheapest way.
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I'm with you mr. gustafson. Far as I see it most of the sites pertaining to the Focus are abused. People come in learn a bit about parts/builds then leave. They don't take the time to help others. I'm not sure if it's that they want to be the only one or not, I can only assume. But they really don't understand the rewarding results of competition if that be the case.

Plus I think the VW/Honda crowd has done a much better job at thwarting the CAI and basically aesthetic HP mods for the most part. You look around the site some and there must be thousands of threads just about intakes while you may find far less about what pistons to use or what cam will spin well to 10,000RPM. Many seem to be on the quest for cheap HP, but as we know that does not exist. And I feel the total education level of the VW/Honda crowd is well above that of the Focus crowd, at least in what is in print.
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well, i dont know if i agree or disagree, but just for the record, i dont look for the cheapest mod for my car(thats why i dont have done anything yet), but is true in some point... for my experience with all this is that the honda and VW have a lot of aftermarket stuff, and we dont, im pretty sure that there is some or other around those forums that they have a nice car but they dont even have money to put gas on it, or do a car payment, i have seen a lot of honda, or any foreign car young owners that they have it for a couple months and they just bring it back because they cant pay for it, so everything depends on the owner.
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i myself dont think that some of the other "looks" are professional... unique, yes but not exactly proffesional with huge looking body kits and whatnot. and yes the size of the scene does make a difference. more people=more ideas=bigger market=more parts/choices
IMHO from what i have seen 97% of the other modified cars look like crap with their 6000 lbs of bodykits

i enjoy this forum because it isnt super flashy most of the time but there are a few to keep it different, i like the slightly changed look but still resembling stock form.

maybe its just my neck of the woods that just about anything modified looks like complete crap and nothing even close to proffesional except for a select few
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IMHO from what i have seen 97% of the other modified cars look like crap with their 6000 lbs of bodykits
What I'm saying is that many scenes have moved past that while ours haven't.
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Ive seen foci with full custom built turbo setups w/ forged internals custom ported heads custom exhasut custom paint etc... ive seen foci with ebay short rams, fart cans, and diy purple tint w/bubbles. I see the same with hondas, not so much with vw's (they seem to all do the same mods) k.i.s.s. with euro flare. Tbh on between this site and FJ i think that the older and possibly more sensible builds are over there where as this is where you come for initial introduction to the focus modding scene. And its hard to be unique when you're rolling in the number one sold car in the world with only a few aftermarket vendors. and most foci seem to focus on performance over style. How many hondas have you seen with only bodykits no engine mods?
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