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Old 01-22-2009, 05:05 PM   #1
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I don't know what this world is coming to but Honda has dropped out of formula one. Audi Has dropped out of The American Le Mans Series.... and most disturbing of all Suzuki has dropped out of WRC... I really hope this isn't the beginning of a trend.


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Old 01-22-2009, 05:10 PM   #2
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Honda is completely out of F1? I know one Honda team, Super Aguri I think, dropped out last season. Money is getting tighter.
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I don't know what this world is coming to but Honda has dropped out of formula one. Audi Has dropped out of The American Le Mans Series.... and most disturbing of all Suzuki has dropped out of WRC... I really hope this isn't the beginning of a trend.
as well as subaru in WRC!
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It's the economy and while those things suck, would you rather have Honda making quality products or focusing on their motorsports program? I'm sure once things turn around all of those who dropped out will be back.

Also, you forgot Subaru is out of WRC as well. Beat to it.
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Honda is still in IRL. In fact, it's the only manufacturer in IRL.

Who's left in WRC? Citroen and Ford?
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Honda is still in IRL. In fact, it's the only manufacturer in IRL.

Who's left in WRC? Citroen and Ford?
manufacter-wise, yeah
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This seems to be a trend will pass though. I don't see these manufacturers staying out for too long. Once money starts rolling in again, they will be back. It is a marketing tool, just not worth it at this point. Maybe a couple of them are coming up on model changes also, who knows.
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Honda is still in IRL. In fact, it's the only manufacturer in IRL.

Who's left in WRC? Citroen and Ford?
"Honda is still in IRL" is totally irrelavent to this discussion. Honda is the sole engine provider in IRL. That means they make the engines and sell them to the IRL teams. So they actually make revenues by being "in IRL". It's very different from supporting, say, an F1 team, which costs hundreds of millions of Honda's own money. Toyota's F1 team budget in 2008 was $445.6m.

2008 F1 teams' budget:
Toyota: $445.6m
McLaren: $433.3m
Ferrari: $414.9m
Honda: $398.1m
Renault: $393.8m
BMW Sauber: $366.8m
Red Bull Racing: $164.7m
Williams: $160.6m
Toro Rosso: $128.2m
Force India: $121.85m

Can't blame Honda for wanting to save that $398.1m in this economy.

By the way, given the Big3's financial status, shouldn't Ford be the first one to exit WRC?
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If subaru doesn't come back to the WRC, i think i'm gonna cry!!
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If subaru doesn't come back to the WRC, i think i'm gonna cry!!
they have to with the new model the guys were showing some potential.

i wonder when they get back if theyll try to get atkinson back since hes with citroen now
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