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Old 01-12-2009, 12:08 AM   #1
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I saw a how to someone wrote on how to make both cooling fans work at the same time or when the key is in the "on" position. I was wondering what this is for and also if I did that would it cause any harm? Thank you for the help!!!


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to run a cooler engine for more hp. wont cause harm may take a little longer to heat up thats all.
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Not a good idea on a normal daily-driver car......

Noisy....
Longer to warm up.
Large current draw.
Hard on alternator.
Problematic with a weak battery.
May cause A/F problems.
Wastes fuel.
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Benefits......?
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I agree that it is not a good idea on a dd car unless a temporary solution for overheating problems. Bluefront, what do you mean by may cause A/F problems?
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Wastes fuel: A cold engine generally results in incomplete combustion. There's some confusion that's caused by FI comments. FI engines would benefit from lower temps to reduce detonation, and FI engines run much hotter than NA engines- requiring more cooling. All of Ford's blocks tend to do well in these categories. All the Fords I've ever dealt with tend to run cold. I think my Duratec runs too cold even when the temp gauge shows the engine to be warm. For example, right now I have blocked off 2/3 of the radiator (I do it for the winter mons), but even when the temps were 70 F outside I couldn't get the fans to come on at 216F. Optimum combustion is around 200F. I'm just not HP enough to feel like I need a coolant temp gauge. This trick seems like something that would be good on a HP street FI engine during competition. All you really have to do is bridge the relay contacts for each fan to force it to run continuously.

Don't believe me, believe Smokey Yunick. If you're really interested in doing some research into oddball engine designs check out his Adibiatic Engine- unless 50 mpg and an increase in hp don't sound good to you. Sadly, the technology went to the grave with him, and increased NOX emissions are likely what kept it from the market.
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^^^^^It would be somewhat like running with no thermostat. The engine will run that way, but it is not designed to do so. The A/F ratio will be richer than it should be, most of the time. On hot summer days, it probably wouldn't hurt anything......but the rest of the time you'd be wasting gas.
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thank you guys for the insight
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Don't believe me, believe Smokey Yunick. If you're really interested in doing some research into oddball engine designs check out his Adiabiatic Engine- unless 50 mpg and an increase in hp don't sound good to you. Sadly, the technology went to the grave with him, and increased NOX emissions are likely what kept it from the market.
http://www.eng-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=78116&page=1

First result when you search Adiabatic Engine. I would honestly believe those guys over anyone, they are mechanical engineers and work in the field for the most part. If they figure the engine was all BS, chances are it was. Remember a patent doesn't have to be anything real, you just have to have an idea to get a patent.
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