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Old 10-11-2008, 10:23 PM   #1
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Downshift tips??

So, i know theres a few ways to downshift. when my mom taught me to drive manual, she said pop the car into neutral, brake through the turn, then put it into 2nd/3rd, depending on how fast your going. lately, ive tried something else. i slow until i reach 1000 rpms, downshift... repeat. comning to a stop, i pop it into neutral and brake to a stop. what i want to learn is heel-toe downshifting. ive looked it up, and im not too sure about it. my friend who has a 350z obviously does this style because i can hear is lovely exhaust when he revs it to downshift. any tips to make it easier or is it even possible in the focus??


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When I downshift, I wait until I'm around 1500rpm and then I downshift. When coming to a complete stop, I usually downshift to 3rd, then hold the clutch in and put it in first and keep the clutch in until I come to a complete stop.
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i dont' heal toe shift my feet are to big. i double pump the clutch at least that is what my cousin said it was. when i need to down shift i put the car in neutral rev to the apropriate rpm ( when you start doing you will learn what the aproprait about is) and then put in the clutch and downshift. if i do it corectly it is smoth if i don't it will either jump to slow down or jump forward a little. it takes time but you will get the hang of it. if there is anyone who can give a better explanation. have it. i think mine was alittle confusing. haha. good luck man.
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You don't ever want to 'coast' around corners with the engine disengaged...unless your just going for a loaf of bread at the corner store...lol
I grew up on motorcycles, so that influence has kinda passed along in my car driving. Basically, I never coast to a stop with it in neutral or the clutch depressed. I ALWAYS have the engine engaged to the drive wheels unless I'm upshifting or downshifting...
If nothing else, it'll save wear on your tranny, as your output shaft isn't always spinning way faster than the input shaft (at engine idle). Probably harder on the syncros as well, sliding your gears around with a big discrepency in speed between the input and output shafts...

Try practising your heel-toe shifting with a pair of Crocs or other snug, flexible footwear...

No need to to double-clutch either, especially with how fragile out clutch master cylinders are!
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i use the brake as normal, but with only half my foot on the pedal (yes...i know its unsafe) but the other half the foot reaches the gas and I just roll it over to blip the throttle to the appropriate gear, like if im shifting from 5th to 2nd or 3rd. Ive gotten pretty decent at it.

If im just coming to a stop light, ill just take the car out of gear and coast until i need to brake.
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It takes alot of practice, the focus's pedals aren't the best for it, you almost need a break pedal extension. Start out by doing it lightly around 2k-3k rpm. basically its a huge feel thing.
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It takes alot of practice, the focus's pedals aren't the best for it, you almost need a break pedal extension. Start out by doing it lightly around 2k-3k rpm. basically its a huge feel thing.
SVT pedals are setup a little better than a regular Focus...
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I actually have the svt setup, but the problem is you have to depress the brake pedal so much before you can hit the gas w/ your heal. otherwise, you have to arch ur foot a ton and its more difficult. The new mustangs are setup perfectly for H&T shifting. Take a look at em if you get a chance.
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i use my big toe on the brake pedal and the last few toes to roll onto the gas. i do agree that true heel toe is difficult in the focus because of how far back the gas sits from the brake.
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Here you go:
How To Heel and Toe Downshift

And, BigRed03 is right on the money, and the article above states exactly as such:
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As you can see, "heel-and-toe" is a misnomer. It actually involves the ball of your foot and the side of your foot.
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