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Old 02-11-2008, 11:56 PM   #1
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Was set on new mustang gt... But... Caliber srt-4 / Mazdaspeed 3 ????

Alright so I was totally set on a new mustang gt because I miss the v8 rumble/torque and the gas mileage is actually quite decent.

But I saw a caliber srt-4 today and it actually looked pretty beefy! I cant believe I actually said that as I have HATED the caliber since it came out...but this one just seems different!

I also liked the mazdaspeed 3 as a new car, but was really turned off by hearing the boost was limited in the first (and second?) gears...
EDITJust read the srt-4 has a similar system limiting the TQ in the first 3 gears... hmmm

Here are the specs I came up with... I tried to be consistent using only well-known sources but im sure there is a 5-10% margin of error between some of the numbers so not all the data is 100% accurate. [most data was acquired from edmunds reviews though]

Price - 0-60 - ¼ mile - Hp/tq - dyno hp/tq - MPG - Actual MPG
Mustang GT $29k - 5.1 - 13.6 -300/320- 265/285 - 15/23- 18+/25+
Caliber srt-4 $24.5k- 6.1 - 14.6 -285/265- 281/261 - 21/26- ??
Mazdaspeed3 $23k- 6.1 - 14.1 -263/280- 216/245 - 18/26- ??

Somehow the speed3 still has the same 0-60 and a quicker quarter than the srt-4 (by .5 seconds) even w/ considerably less hp/tq on the dyno And somehow the GT manages a -1 second in the 0-60 and -.5 to 1 second quicker in the quarter than the other two. Even with the weight difference I guess the the torque and RWD really help it to launch.


Weight on the GT: 3500lb the SRT-4: 3200lb The Mazdaspeed3: 3200lb
Both the 4 banger have 6 speeds, the gt the 5 speed.

So what does everyone think? It will be hard for me to pass the GT... but the idea of having possibly better MPG than rated (for speed3/SRT) and having more passenger/caro space is attractive, not to mention the 5k-6k savings on the sticker price.

Seems like with 1k-2k in upgrades on any of the cars you can see a 20-30 hp & 20-30 tq gain which is nice.

As far as colors go... GT would be black...Speed3 The orange is amazing (like the euro SVTF orange I always wanted!) or black... And SRT-4 black is first with the burnt orange a close second...

What are you opinions on these options??? One other thing to consider is Insurance... I am 22 now (will be making the purchase in 1 year +/- [my graduation present to myself :) ]so I need something that wont have horrendous rates!!

Thanks in advance!!


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Dude, wait for the new turbo cobalt ss

but I do love a mustang
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I'd take the Mustang. Far more classier than the other 2.
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I dont know...the caliber just BARELY got under the radar, but the cobalt is just...well... I dunno... *gets tingles down the spine* Just too damn girly! I thought that about the original srt-4 for awhile, but those can at least be made to look beefy, dont know about the caliber being the same!

*whispers quietly* what are the specs on the new ss?
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get a cobalt ss and put the pontiac g5 bumpers on it. lol
make a g5 gtp... it'll freak cobalt owners out!!!!
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g5/g6 is right there with the SS... for now anyway; they sit in the cold damp basement tucked away in a corner ;)
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i like how the caliber looks, but god damn the mustang is just to sweet, even if theirs tons of em, i still think thats the best choice, and the mazda is very nice as well, i honestly would be torn between them two, and go for the cheaper of the 2, and go speed3, or speed6 with the awd MMMMMMMMM
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Mazdaspeed 3, get it while you can. New options and colors for the 2008.5 model.
Also, I don't recall who but there was a review were they got a sub 6 second 0-60 time, something like a 5.9.

Add about$900 in parts (MS CAI & test / down pipes) and it will be a complete monster.

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i think the mustang is the most car out of those three but if you want a hatch the MS3 is WAY better then the caliber. handles much better and has awsome brakes. plus i do believe its quite a bit lighter, and with the difference in price you could throw some mods at it to make it even faster.. but the mustang is the one with the best overall potential..
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Get the MS3. Caliber is just plain fugly and a waste of money. Complete DISASTER on Dodges part. Even the Neon was better looking (sorry, I do not like dodge - never have, never will). Mustang...well IMO they're played out. Its OK, but I'd rather something that looks like it was designed for todays world, not a retrofitted car from its hayday. If I were to get a Mustang, it would be a '99-'04. Much better body style IMO. I feel your best choice there is the MS3; for the looks, the price, the complete useability, I don't think you can beat it (with your other 2 choices that is).

Now, if I were in your position I'd be buying a nice STI - now theres a car!
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