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Old 01-04-2008, 10:30 AM   #1
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A concept I think anyone would like

I'll admit it I poke around the site mainly because of my buddy witchcitySVT, but, i had an idea that is car-brand neutral that he thought was a good idea so I'm posting it here for general discussion.

I originally posted it on my home forum (link below) I do check this site and I want to hear from people who enjoy the hands-on approach to working on thier cars. thanks!

http://mymonte.com/discussion/index....howtopic=22762

I'm throwing an idea out that I plan on pushing to actually materialize.

This is mostly for people who live in condos / apartments or people who don't want to work in bad weather.

Imagine this....

A fully stocked garage with bays you can rent by the hour or the day depending on the size of the project. you do everything yourself. If you need assistance, it can be provided, but everything is pretty much do it yourself.

If you bring all of your own tools you get a discounted rate on the deal, and specific air/ power tools could be rented if you only need one or two. Specific tools such as pulley pullers could also be borrowed. For instance doing brakes during winter this option would be ideal

Now the icing on the cake. On site dyno!

Spend your whole saturday installing a turbo and actually dialing it in before you leave!
Or, how about doing an engine swap without needing to purchase all of the tools needed.

I've found a location that would suit this kind of concept well and i'm just trying locate the building's owner and someone who is willing to invest in this idea (so far its looking good).

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Just so it's clear he is not soliciting or advertising anything. He just wants to get some feed back to see if this type of project would be worthwhile. I think it's a great idea for people who don't have a spot to work on there car, but how many people are willing to pay to do it or is it just easier to do it in your drive way or your friends house?
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^^^yeah, trust me i have nothing worth selling

I just want some comments
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They have those on military bases. Really nice setup.
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that would be a great idea!! not everybody has access to a shop like that. i think it would be awesome to be able to go somewhere and be able to do ur own work. ive been to the base auto hobby shop but if a shop like this were available, id deff. hit this up first.
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Theoretically, it sounds like a good idea.
The problem lies with your cost-to-benefit ratio.

How much do you charge (per hour?) to make it attractive to use, and still be able to turn a profit? The cost to open the place up will be huge - building, equipment, tools, hiring help, insurance, etc.

I also see another area. What do you do about 'projects' that take more than one day? You only have a limited number of bays available. If long-term projects take us your space, you won't have any bays available for new customers, or pehaps for people who have put in reservations.

I would suggest a slight change. Go for an outdoor yard where people 'rent' space to work on projects - keep it cheap. Also, you'd have a building with a dedicated oil/lube pit, a 'hoist' pit, and you dyno stall....and others as necessary. You'd rent tools by the hour, based on their cost (If you're in a cold climate, you can even rent them a space heater to help them keep warm). You could also maybe sell tools as well. You would also have the latest in diagnostic information / capability available as well, and a 'resident' expert mechanic to answer questions.

You could also set this up to support guys doing their own body repair work, with a paint booth, etc.
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Theoretically, it sounds like a good idea.
The problem lies with your cost-to-benefit ratio.

How much do you charge (per hour?) to make it attractive to use, and still be able to turn a profit? The cost to open the place up will be huge - building, equipment, tools, hiring help, insurance, etc.

I also see another area. What do you do about 'projects' that take more than one day? You only have a limited number of bays available. If long-term projects take us your space, you won't have any bays available for new customers, or pehaps for people who have put in reservations.

I would suggest a slight change. Go for an outdoor yard where people 'rent' space to work on projects - keep it cheap. Also, you'd have a building with a dedicated oil/lube pit, a 'hoist' pit, and you dyno stall....and others as necessary. You'd rent tools by the hour, based on their cost (If you're in a cold climate, you can even rent them a space heater to help them keep warm). You could also maybe sell tools as well. You would also have the latest in diagnostic information / capability available as well, and a 'resident' expert mechanic to answer questions.

You could also set this up to support guys doing their own body repair work, with a paint booth, etc.
Thats funny as hell .I said the exact same thing to him when he first asked me what I thought. Trust me he has answers to all these questions.
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Chris you were right people want that paint booth!

Ok well the building I'm looking at could easy house 10 work areas, there is also an undeveloped plot of land right next to the building that would most likely be paved and a smaller 3/4 bay sized building in the back. Layout is obveously still up in the air but I could see potentially as many as 12 groups of people using the space simulaneously.

By the responses I've been getting, being profitable doesn't even sound like an issue.
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if there were a place like this where i live i would probably use it, i do my own work because i mostly dont trust the oil change place to you put oil in and use the right filter, or tighten the filter for that matter, so if it were reasonably priced i could see myself using this place on weekends to do brakes, oil changes, possibly a clutch job (with some friends) in the off months, but during the warmer months ill do my minor work outside, of course the clutch job id want to do in a garage so even in the summer id do it at the garge, so basically i think its a good idea, as long as its priced correctly
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I would love to have something like this around. For one, my driveway is gravel, so can't do any kind of work on my car really, I don't trust it to jack my car up. So usually i go to a friends house, but ramps and jacks only get you so far, and its still a pita sometimes. This kind of place would be great, everyone can use a lift. The dyno would be cool too. You'd have to make the price right, but like people said you'd have to make sure you have enough space. It sounds like you do and hopefully you'd have a balance of people doing quick jobs and people doing long term projects. At first i'd definitly limit the amount of people you'll allow doing full time jobs, cause if you fill up with people who are going to leave there cars there all the time then other people won't be able to come in. I'm sure you've figured this all out already lol. I guess its basically kinda like a music studio, you go in use the equipment and record and get charged by the hour. Only problem you might have is with oil changes. Alot of places charge anywhere from 15-30 bucks to do an oil change for you. So like you might have a standard hourly rate for other things like brakes and what not, but for oil changes you might want to run a special hourly rate so its actually worth going to your shop instead of doing it in your driveway. Also another idea is to have a handy staff like you said that can help out when need, and you might want to try to become a certified inspection site as well, which should help bring in buisness. Good luck to you...just move the Long Island instead lol


Ooo another good idea to have is a place to store the cars that are being worked on for a long time. Also a good idea would to get a small ATV with a tow hitch. This way cars that need to stay at the shop cause they can't run can be taken outta the work bays and towed to storage so they are not in the way of other cars.
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