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Old 04-16-2007, 11:21 PM   #1
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but i was wondering is their any real difference or betterness of a 351 windsor or a 351 cleveland..... is their any real facts or which one is better of the two? which one would u prefer.... and why? cuz im gettin a 351 windsor and someone is telling me its crap ?


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now way dude.....the windsor and cleveland 351's are awsome....one of my top 5 favorite vehicles has a 351...the pimp ass early 90's ford lightnings..the windsor is a good motor to build...although the clevelands are harder to come by......what are you doing with it???
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I have never heard Windsor and crap in the same sentence.
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:03 AM   #4
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well im sticking a 351 windsor in my 1956 ford f100_ exchanging it for my 302 =)
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Although I don't know anything about the parts interchangability, Being an 'old guy' I remember back in the late 60's reading about the motors. The Windsor motor was the 'mainstream' engine put in most of the 'bread and butter' cars - mostly Torinos and LTD's with 2 barrel carbs (although I believe there was a 4 barrel version as well ). The Cleveland motors were used in the hi-po Mustangs and Torinos.

Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but I think the biggest difference was 2-bolt (Windsor) vs. 4-bolt (Cleveland) mains. Clevelands probably had higher compression as well.

As time went on, I didn't hear too much more about the Cleveland motors - of course this got into the early-mid 70's when 'performance' was a dirty word in Detroit.
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windosr motors are good. be sure to have good heads because that is the main problem with most 302/351 motors, especially if you are pulling the motor from another car and sticking it in. if you get a crate motor just be sure you get the specs you want in it.
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The Windsor is in the same engine series as the 289 and 302. Its a very common engine and lots of aftermarket support. The Cleveland is a superior engine design, but has less aftermarket support. So if you are looking at cost at all, the 351W is cheaper. Also, you should know there is a 351M, you don't want one of these. They are truck engines and not good for a performance car.
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I had one in my bronco, the windsor is a BA motor but I tooo suggest replasing the heads, I belive the gt-40 heads off of a 302 stang should also fit on the windsor.
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Like everyone is saying, there is nothing wrong with the windsor motor. 302 heads will fit the 351 windsor, but you need to watch the head bolt size. The bolts are a different dia. but is not something to worry about. If you have the money to upgrade the heads do it. And if you have even more money you can buy a stroker kit. No matter what, put that 351w in the that truck.
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Either way you will be doing well. The cleveland had some pretty good heads on them. But, the windsor will do you just fine, and it's a better choice for a truck than a 302 IMO.
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