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Old 03-28-2007, 08:30 AM   #1
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So theres this whole Gas myth.........

OK so a few ppl try to tell me that Arco's gas is slightly watered down, not just arcos but the cheap gas. These ppl at my work are convinced that a lot of gas stations are because they say if you watch you milledge carefully they notice big difference when using shell than they would with Arco. what do you think?


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I wouldn't be shocked to discover some stations watering down their product to make a few extra bucks, but I'd be more inclined to believe its at the point of sale, not at the distribution. Maybe Shell stations would be less prone to this kind of thing, I dunno.
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all of the companies that pump oil all over the country use the same lines. all they do is buy a certain amount of time and put in that much oil. however, at the same time they will be taking out what they are putting in at the location where they need the oil. there is no guarantee that shell will be getting shell oil out. that is why there are standards like octane ratings that all companies have to abide by. i have heard that the cheaper gas stations may water down their gas, but i havent really noticed it. i put 93 in my car anyways....and i only use BP, Hess, or citgo (usually the mid range of prices in my neck of the woods)
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OK so a few ppl try to tell me that Arco's gas is slightly watered down, not just arcos but the cheap gas. These ppl at my work are convinced that a lot of gas stations are because they say if you watch you milledge carefully they notice big difference when using shell than they would with Arco. what do you think?
It may not be water in the gas. Most likely it is the container itself that the gas is in. If you go to a good gas station the tanks should have monitored temperatures that make sure the gas stays at a constant tempurature. If the gas gets hot, it expands, so when you fuel up you aren't actually getting as much gas as you are paying for. Many states are lobbying for a mandate that all gas station have to keep the gas at a certain temperature so they can't rip off consumers. So basically when you fuel up on a hot day you may pay for 11 gallons, but when that gas cools like in your garage it may only be 10.6 or so gallons.
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i use only shell myself because it has proven to me anyways to raise my mpg. I know its unefficient to tell by miles per gallon and be exact but i can say that i have been getting an extra 20+ miles per tank since switching to shell. I dont know about water but i do know that the detergents used are less in discount gas than higher quality such as bp, shell, ...
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OK so a few ppl try to tell me that Arco's gas is slightly watered down, not just arcos but the cheap gas. These ppl at my work are convinced that a lot of gas stations are because they say if you watch you milledge carefully they notice big difference when using shell than they would with Arco. what do you think?
You will notice a degredation in gasoline performance from October - April because of Federal emissions laws.

Though not required to in all states, you should see a placard on the pump that notifies you of oxygenated gas. This reduces the emissions created from burning the fuel during the winter months when the ozone layer is thinner.

That's probably what you are experiencing.

As for watering down the gas, probably not. There are a finite number of suppliers and it would not be cost effective for one particular company to "water down" the fuel.

That said, periodically, stations need to replace their underground tanks because of condensation. It's not as big a problem as it used to be.
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Also, because of the oxygenated gas, you will see a drop in MPG until the summer fuel returns to the mainstream next month.
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Just get what you feel comfortable. All the extra stuff they put in... blah. 76 for me. Arco on school days... lol.
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its all about the detergents added to fuel.legaly all fuel has to contain a certain amount of detergent to be sold. but some companys go above and beyond/chevron,shell ect. ill always use chevron. its worth it to pay the extra few pennys for better cleaning fuel.
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That's pretty much why I stick with BP. The detergents in their production is supposed to be the best in the business.

Just a side note to the guys here that run 93 octane on a consistent basis, be wary! Premium gas will coke up your EGR system.
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