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Old 02-07-2007, 03:28 AM   #1
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Bye to the Focus.... Thank God!!

I haven't posted here in forever. Mainly becuase I got tired of it. Not becuase of the site but becuase of my piece of crap rip off also known as a 2003 Ford Focus. In the past (2 years ago give or take) I posted a thread about how my guage cluster went out on my car and not only the local dealership but also someone from Ford cooperate was trying to screw me out of them paying for the problem. It was totally a warrented problem but they didn't want to admit to it. After driving a completely unsafe car for over 2 years that I didn't know how fast I was going or how much gas I had in the tank, I got the chance to trade it in. Only got the chance because my uncle passed away and I was a beneficiary on his life insurance policy. I had to lay down more than the pay off of the car to be able to trade it in. The car was completely worth nothing but the gas that was in the tank. The mileage on the car was unknown. So I had nothing but negative equity. I finally got rid of the piece of shit (for lack of a better term). I traded it in on an '02 Nissan Altima in almost perfect condition. This is a car that I know I could rely on and a company that I know wouldn't try to screw me out of every dime that they could possibly get out of me. After all of this stress that I have gone through with owning a Ford I was almost ready to take the car up to he dealership that I bought it from and drive it right through the front REMOVED door and let them deal with it. So now I finally say goodbye to the biggest waiste of money that I have ever had to deal with. But before I say goodbye a nice list of every single problem that I encountered while I owned the hunk of junk.

First problem to the last:
Engine replaced because of hydrolock
Guage cluster went out, completely
passenger side window crank broke off
driver side window crank broke off
arm rest "click in" broke so I had to keep the armrest down at all times unless I wanted my shit to spill out
clutch and break rubber pedal covers both stretch out so that they wouldn't stay on
e-break light constantly staying on
rebuilt ignition 150 bucks(part of Ford's huge cover up on the focus ignition problems)
not even one year later, replaced ignition another 150 bucks
Went to replace the break light in right rear. Found that the "easy to remove break lights" were not so easy to remove. The light broke. I said, hell with it and gorilla glued the cover back on after replacing the bulb.

So after all of that and being completely pissed off at Ford the only advice that I got from the dealership was this:
Called to speak with GM at a local dealer and spoke with someone else in charge because the GM was not there. I told him my problem and he wanted me to go get a guage cluster with what I thought was the correct mileage put on the odometer. I explained to him that that was illegal and I could face a fine of up to $50,000 for selling/trading a car with the incorrect mileage on it. He persisted that I do it anyway. After him cutting me off while I was trying to speak to him I confronted him about him not wanting to listen to me and he hung up on me. Some customer service.
Next, I called the dealership that I purchased the car from and spoke with the GM who spoke very poor english. Language barriers suck but I found they do understand cuss words very well. He was actually willing to listen and told me the only thing I could do was seek legal advice and told me that I probably wouldn't get too far. So I told him, "so I pretty much have to play the cards that I have been dealt. So I'm screwed." He said, "yea." So thanks to ford for ruining 4 years of my life that I know I will never get back. Finally I got from under the grip of a worthless company that screws every single person that purchases a car from them. Pray to God that you never have any factory issues with your car because you WILL get screwed just like I did.


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Old 02-07-2007, 06:14 AM   #2
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sorry to hear you had a lot of problems...
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Old 02-07-2007, 06:28 AM   #3
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Learn from your mistakes.

Two things I say in peace, put enough down so that 3-4 year payment is bearable and get the Ford ESP. Good luck with your new ride.
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User experience may vary. My family owns two Nissans: '95 Maxima and '98 Altima. Both cars occasionally get the mysterious oil leak problem. I think it's been taken to a Nissan dealership 3 or 4 times last year for that problem, and it still isn't really fixed. The O2 sensor crapped out on both cars over time, and I've heard that this was a common problem with other Nissan models as well. The radio antenna also stopped popping up by itself, and at one point it was dangling from a spring (like how a car breaks down in an old cartoon).

The maintenance expenses on both cars were ridiculously high (if you thought Ford was bad!). They weren't any less forgiving than any other dealership when it came to that. They're ALL out to make money from you. One guy I knew who worked there offered to help us fix the ignition cylinder on the Maxima. He said he could get the portion that needed to be replaced for $30, when normally the dealership would charge well over $120 for the whole assembly. Ridiculous.

The same guy owned a '95 Maxima too, and he admitted that it was a piece of shit. Great when he first bought it, but wasn't too reliable in the long run. Our most recent repair involved $1800 to get a portion of the front frame replaced, because it was rusted to hell and wouldn't pass state inspection (since it partially supports the engine). The body shops we've been to said that this car was prone to severe undercarriage rust.

The list of things that needed to be fixed up and replaced went on and on. But most of the things I haven't mentioned are regular wear and tear, and probably apply to other cars when they've reached the 100k mile mark. So I've given the rest of the crap the benefit of the doubt.

I think the worst thing about the Maxima, however, was the fact that it drank premium gas like no tomorrow. Ever try running a car on $54 a week on gas alone? Not fun. And this was when I was OUT OF a job for over 4 months. I'm SO glad I don't have to drive that car anymore. Right now I'm only paying $20-23 a week in gas for the Focus. This car is a godsend compared to the Maxima. My sister's Nissan isn't doing any better either.

I guess my point is, dealerships are going to screw you over one way or another. No car is perfect. Owning ANY type of automobile will burn your money fast if you're not careful. I understand where you're coming from with your frustration, but I try not to discriminate between car companies despite these bad experiences. There are so many parts and pieces to a car and rarely does everything go perfectly when you own one. I think the thing that matters the most is HOW the company dealership handles your problems. And I'm just here to say that Nissan wasn't any better.
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Old 02-07-2007, 07:51 AM   #5
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"So thanks to ford for ruining 4 years of my life that I know I will never get back."

i think that's a bit extreme, sounds like a bad ex or something.
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Wait, so you're telling me that cussing at general managers and being rude to people won't get you the service you desire?? Holy crap, I'll definately take that advice to heart...

Oh and by the way, Ford Dealerships DO NOT EQUAL Ford Motor Company. How long did you persue the issue with Ford "Cooperate" ( I assume you mean Ford Corporate)? And how hard is it to swap in a new cluster? Honestly man, you can do that yourself and explain to future owners that the original one broke. With proper documentation you aren't falsifying anything and you won't be fined 50 grand.

I am very sorry to hear that your car had a lot of issues, but there are things called lemon laws and other options you can explore instead of bitching. I'm also sorry to hear that apparently a busted car is enough to ruin every aspect of your life for four entire years.....
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Old 02-07-2007, 12:01 PM   #8
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if you were rich that wouldnt matter...sorry to hear.
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I'm just curious; how exactly is it Ford's fault that you hydrolocked your engine?
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looking at that list most of those problems were owner induced or plain neglect.
yeah, enjoy the nissan. dads has been in and out of the shop since he bought it a year ago.
no car will never have some sort of problems. in another year we'll probably be hearing how crappy the nissan is. try taking care of problems instead of letting them go then complaining how crappy someones product is.
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