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Old 06-22-2011, 05:08 PM   #1
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Test drove a 2012

Stopped by the local dealership to test drive a 2012 focus. Wanted to get kinda a feel for the model when the ST comes out. They only had 1 model with a manual but was the base model. Drove like a slug so to speak lol. Handling sucked but it did have some pep. I sure can't wait for the ST now as I'm sure it'll be 1000x better than the stock focus I drove.

Looked at the titaniums and can't believe they stickered for $28k. My svt was only $23k but only paid $18k. The sales lady sure was shocked when I showed her my original window sticker . I sure am hoping the St will be around $25k.

I'll be paying cash for mine, home equity loan FTW lol.


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why would she be shocked that it stickered for 23K back in 2004?
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Stopped by the local dealership to test drive a 2012 focus. Wanted to get kinda a feel for the model when the ST comes out. They only had 1 model with a manual but was the base model. Drove like a slug so to speak lol. Handling sucked but it did have some pep. I sure can't wait for the ST now as I'm sure it'll be 1000x better than the stock focus I drove.

Looked at the titaniums and can't believe they stickered for $28k. My svt was only $23k but only paid $18k. The sales lady sure was shocked when I showed her my original window sticker .

I sure am hoping the St will be around $25k.
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Keep hoping ... lol

The ST will be the first Focus to go over $30k ... unfortunately ...
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Old 06-23-2011, 12:04 AM   #4
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Car & Driver tested a 2012 SE 5MT and recorded 0-60 in 7.3 seconds... that doesn't sound too far off what SVT's run stock. That being said, I haven't driven a 2012, so I'm not saying you're wrong.

* I just Googled "2004 Focus SVT 0-60" and saw results anywhere from 6.9-7.6...

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Car & Driver tested a 2012 SE 5MT and recorded 0-60 in 7.3 seconds... that doesn't sound too far off what SVT's run stock. That being said, I haven't driven a 2012, so I'm not saying you're wrong.

* I just Googled "2004 Focus SVT 0-60" and saw results anywhere from 6.9-7.6...

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Posted via FF Mobile True, but almost remeber perception of how a car drives will aslo be effected by where the power is in the rev band and the 2012 does weight more then the svt. So regardless of the numbers on paper itll feel different to the driver. Also Orangesvtguy could had mods in his car.
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Going from an SVT(7 years old) to a new base Focus there was still quite a bit of difference. It did have "pep" like I mentioned before but the handling just wasn't there and that had a huge impact on my driving experiece. I was even describing to the sales lady how well the SVT handled and even offered her a ride in my car lol.
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Going from an SVT(7 years old) to a new base Focus there was still quite a bit of difference. It did have "pep" like I mentioned before but the handling just wasn't there and that had a huge impact on my driving experiece. I was even describing to the sales lady how well the SVT handled and even offered her a ride in my car lol.
Man of course, you probably have suspension and rims lol. C/D also had an SE manual hitting the skidpad at .88g which is pretty high for an econocar (and the same as the SVT they tested in '03). I feel like I can whip this car around real nicely, however I havent driven an SVT, and I prefer a little softer ride for the shitty city driving. It does need to be spun up to hustle.
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This is going to sound stupid but I didn't realize that traction control reduced engine power too (I thought that was for stability control only). When I recently turned it off it felt like I just gained 20 more horsepower out of nowhere. I love my car to death now and only drive with traction control in rain/snow. So with this newfound knowledge I refuse to own a car that doesn't have 100% defeatable traction/stability control.

I feel as though the electronics are ultimately the biggest blame for the 2012 Focus. When I watched Fifth Gear's review I noticed that traction/stability control still intervenes even after you turn it off. That might be why it still feels like the car is still holding back on you, when compared with the SVTF (which remember didn't have all this electronic crap).

I DON'T recommend doing this, but hypothetically speaking if you pull the fuse that feeds power to the ABS circuit it will disable all assists altogether. Without any power to the ABS sensors you're back to having an old school car with complete control. However I don't know if this would cause any complications, and I can't imagine your dealership being too happy to discover those fault codes either...
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i also test drove a 2012 and wasnt really that impressed with the handling, i thought the fiesta was more fun. but the focus i drove was a se i think without the sport package and with the steel wheels/hubcaps. i will have to try again and see if the bigger rims and suspension/brake upgrades make it better ;)
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i also test drove a 2012 and wasnt really that impressed with the handling, i thought the fiesta was more fun. but the focus i drove was a se i think without the sport package and with the steel wheels/hubcaps. i will have to try again and see if the bigger rims and suspension/brake upgrades make it better ;)
Agreed. I thought the Fiesta was more fun too. Light car + small wheelbase = FUN. The Fiesta also has an FRPP Handling Pack option that makes it even tighter around corners. Unfortunately the Fiesta is also the lesser practical of the two. And I think you're right, you'd have to jump into SE Sport Package or Titanium territory for the Focus to compete. But then we're talking over $20k to achieve that. :-(
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