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Old 04-11-2007, 04:08 PM   #1
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how bad is the prius for the enviroment?

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Old 04-11-2007, 04:18 PM   #2
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Wow.

I wonder what a Focus costs per mile
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Aside from being friendly to nature, I always knew that these cars were a complete waste of money, being that the extra price for "hybridity" takes 5 years to offset the lower gas expsenses.

Man, im so shoving this article in every environmental-loving tree-hugging Toyota Prius owner's face!
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Old 04-11-2007, 04:37 PM   #4
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they may be expensive now, but i think part of the point is to advance the technology so that it may be alot cheaper later on. This is why there are gov't subsidies and tax credits and such on hybrids.
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the new mercedes S Class is built with more environment-friendly products than the prius.
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wow thats pretty intense, and i figured the mpg of the prius was feather footed
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they may be expensive now, but i think part of the point is to advance the technology so that it may be alot cheaper later on. This is why there are gov't subsidies and tax credits and such on hybrids.
Yeah, unfortunately it's the first "hump" of high costs and slow development that keeps most people from trying out hybrids and electric cars on a large scale. I like the gas motors as much as the next mod enthusiast, but I don't have a problem with switching to electric cars. They're going to beat the pants off of anything we have now once we get the tech and production side of things up to speed.

I was blown away from the torque numbers of the electric motor in those things. I know electric motors have a lot of torque but wow. I'm sure once the first reasonably priced electric car comes out SkaAddict will have a permanent stiffy.
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If you take away the production of the batteries required to drive the electric motors they are good for the enviroment...unfortunately producing batteries consumes fossil fuels and results in highly toxic byproducts like cadmium and nickel.

This is why Ford (and others) need to ditch the hybrids. Ford only has one hybrid model, the Escape, but it uses technology licensed from Toyota and as a result, Ford has to pay a royalty on them to Toyota for every Escape hybrid they sell. Ford could bring the TDCi four-cylinder over and put it in a Focus and beat the pants off of Toyota and Honda's hybrid models in gas mileage. But instead they choose to pay royalties to the company that is about to take their place as the number 3 automaker in the US
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If you take away the production of the batteries required to drive the electric motors they are good for the enviroment...unfortunately producing batteries consumes fossil fuels and results in highly toxic byproducts like cadmium and nickel.

This is why Ford (and others) need to ditch the hybrids. Ford only has one hybrid model, the Escape, but it uses technology licensed from Toyota and as a result, Ford has to pay a royalty on them to Toyota for every Escape hybrid they sell. Ford could bring the TDCi four-cylinder over and put it in a Focus and beat the pants off of Toyota and Honda's hybrid models in gas mileage. But instead they choose to pay royalties to the company that is about to take their place as the number 3 automaker in the US
I really like how a JAPANESE car maker is that high up in our (united states) car food chain.
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Easy...Japan protects is domestic industry. I recall a report by one of the major news networks that showed how much of a hassle it is to buy a foriegn car in Japan, not to mention how much more you have to pay with import taxes. We let Japanese automakers build factories here and assemble cars here from foriegn-built parts and sell them as US-made, but under Japanese law, Ford, GM, Chrysler or any other non-Japanese owned company could not do the same there.

With laissez-faire capitalists like Bush in power, traditional protective tarriffs have been stripped. Add to that a number of incredibly stupid moves on the domestic automakers' part, like Ford continuing to crank out full-size trucks and SUVs like its 1995 and (like I mentioned already) paying royalties to their closest competitor for their first-gen technology instead of using their own highly fuel-efficient diesel engines and you arrive at Ford being bumped out of their number 3 slot by a Japanese automaker.
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