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Old 02-04-2014, 03:32 AM   #1
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Need a tune, car throwing lean code.

So being part off FJ i realize i may get flack for it since the two don't seem to play all that nicely. however 90% of FF is wrapped around Toms finger, and 90% of FJ are wrapped around randys finger. so i will put a post on both forums to get the best answer possible. As Copy paste as i can get.

to start off price is different. fswerks is 379 and im not sure if they charge shipping. toms is 399 +20 dollar shipping. so fswerks has a nice start. however tom fights back with free update tunes for life and what seems to be better CS as he babies you. which to be honest seems kinda nice to me. now im not sure if fswerks offers free updates (or like 5 dollar updates) as well for life as that would level the playing field.

MISC INFO I THOUGHT ID SHARE NOT VERY IMPORTANT (probably hard to follow, sorry in advance)

even i have experienced toms cs with 1 email and a 1.25hr response time. i sent fswerks an email a long ass time ago and it took so long for him to respond that i abandoned the fourm; and modding for a bit because highschool. that or i never saw it. who knows, who cares? one thing that did bother me though is that when i did see the response(just now)it seemed kind crappy that it was a "hey there, sorry, we don't offer programming for homemade air intake kits." i put a cone filter in front of the maf. i really don't think that would be a huge difficulty for a experienced tuner. then again im not sure if randy was saying "we dont tune cars with homemade parts" or "we dont have a tune that fits that perfectly but we have one that will still work"

however i recently got back into modding, more so than before. if i say so myself ive done quite a bit since then, pretty much all the motor piping/bolt ons. havent touched cams/head(resurface/bore/internals) or intake mani. also i autox now and its a blast :D

enough of the boring stuff

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current motor mods: custom cai (spectre cone filter secured infront of maf)

65mm bbk tb

pacesetter headers

home made cat back; 2.5" piping from flex back. glass pack, which is a straight pipe with some noise makers, and a thrush muffler

q1: what are some key features that tom offers that randy doesnt?
q2: how happy are you with your tune on a scale of 1 to 10?
q3: what separates toms tune from randys? no CS reviews, no key features, just driving the car day to day and hooning fun. after all this is what im really looking at.

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tune ,who to go with

Please let me know if you have any questions I can help with

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Old 02-04-2014, 09:42 AM   #3
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Hopping in here from your post over on FJ.

Do you have any info on the code? Regardless of what tuner you choose, I would get the code figured out first on the stock ECU. Throw the stock airbox back in and then check for vacuum leaks if the code still persists. Any tune on a car that isn't running well is going to give you a bad impression. Good luck!
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Haha yea I'll go get the code now, the code only arised when I installed my new headers. All the connections are tight but I'll take a lending hand. Its p0171 system too lean bank 1.



Any ideas? I just thought maybe I out did my tune. Another member thought that may be it too.
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Lol Tom, I got a good chuckle out of that XD
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Actually Tom I think my ob2 reader does data logs, if I sent you one might you be able to tell me the issue?
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That's the primary o2 so it could be a few things:

- Exhaust leak before your primary sensor
- Vacuum leak
- Metered air leak
- Problem with the custom intake

The Pacesetter header is the ramhorn style that keeps the OEM cat?
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Ah, let me go into my paperwork to find you the link. Yes the OEM cat stays.



I don't think the header is leaking, I bolted that down tight as possible. However what's the vacuum leak/metered air leak?



Also the intake might be why but the issue arised when I put my Tb and headers on. Google time!



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Yeah, first step would be to put back the OEM intake and verify everything is tight with no leaks between the air filter and throttle body.

If the code doesn't go away, then start looking for vacuum leaks. Vacuum leaks would be any leak post throttle body that allows un-metered air into the engine. That makes it run lean because the MAF is reading X units of air, but the engine is really consuming X units + the vacuum leak of air.
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If you want to give me a call I can look at your laptop why you are datalogging it , I dont mind helping even if you dont buy a tune from me

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