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Old 01-09-2017, 09:54 PM   #1
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To Cobb Stage 3 or not to Cobb Stage 3?

Hey Guys, first post so thank you in advance for having me on the forums. Just picked up my 14' back in October and am in love with the ST, fun little car! Smoked a Cobalt SS' a week ago on I-69 from a roll of about 60mph up to 115. I'm guessing it was the supercharged version , but nonetheless lol.

It has been a little bit since I have dabbled with cars but I am ready to drop some fundage on my little pet soon. If I make any uneducated statements, please feel free to educate me as I said above, it has been awhile and this is my first turbo experience.

I guess my question is, is it actually worth it to go right to a Cobb Stage-3 kit?

From what I have saw thus far, it seems a bit pricey to me for numbers that I am not amazingly impressed with. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure the huge increase in torque will be a blast to drive. I'm also guessing the engine mount helps with the steering in addition to it overall just sounding better. It just seems to me from what I have read, that the kit actually seems more like a set up for a bigger turbo, minus the bigger turbo. Is it recommended to have it pro-tuned again after installation?

I have all intentions of modding this car, but I would like to achieve this with a kit. Time is very valuable to me due to I have quite a bit commute (not with the focus, it's garaged now) and a kit sounds great if I could receive it all at once.

Again, my apologies if these are ignorant questions but I would like to learn and I figured you guys would be the ones to ask. Thank you for the help!


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Would be a promblem with warranty.
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Let's pretend that does not matter.

Is it actually worth installing the above mentioned mod/kit, in your opinion?
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Well you should do more research on this. Lots of money and you will most Likely need a tune.
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I'd go w/ a Montune FMIC, intake, Cobb dp......Of course you'll need a tune.
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OP - Welcome, I'd say go right to stage 3 if thats what you want/looking for. Many people daily stage 3 cars, just depends on like you said money right?

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I guess maybe that is were I am confused.

I thought the access tuner that comes with the kit flashes the ecu to pre-installed tunes already installed on the access tuner? So even with those pre-installed, it is still recommended to get a tune? Maybe I am reading that incorrectly lol

Also, is this kit basically a set up for planning on a bigger turbo? To me, that seems like exactly what it for.

Thanks for the responses so far guys
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Also, I'm not filthy rich by any means but i have a good 4-5k I could dump in to my car if I really wanted to.

I guess that is the point of the overall question.... if this kit is a set up for a bigger turbo, Id rather just buy the bigger turbo along with the kit. If not, Id assume two tunes would be needed? (One with just the kit, and another after a bigger turbo is installed if I decided to do that)
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All you really need to know about the Cobb package - though the car in this video is significant in that it's more than a Stage 3 package, they did some suspension tuning in there too...
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Doesn't seem like you're confused, just a difference between what's common for the ST and for the other earlier or N/A models.

The Cobb tuner comes with OTS/OTC tunes (Off the shelf/Over the Counter) while similar "canned" tunes are less common for the other models. Just what they're called varies, OTC seems to be most common in the ST World.

No point in going through lower levels of Cobb tuning/modifications when the cash is there to go direct to your objective, lower levels save $ and you can later convert upwards - only reason to use them really.

Engine in these is a torque monster, that's where you get the real response from, so HP numbers not being as impressive doesn't mean as much. Stock tuning already cuts power quite a bit in lower gears, and you need it cut a bit at lower RPM in any gear to help keep things together.
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