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ST 2K5 08-08-2012 10:11 AM

Cool ST Ad...
Not sure if this is a repost, If it is mods feel free to delete

BlazedReaper 08-08-2012 07:10 PM

it is an awesome ad, someone posted it in another thread though!

felixthecat 08-10-2012 11:04 PM


Originally Posted by BlazedReaper (Post 4298437)
it is an awesome ad, someone posted it in another thread though!

I 2nd that ^^^^^^ AWESOME[thumb]

RonMaiden 08-11-2012 12:15 AM

Maybe a little ambitious and I'm curious to see real world results.

pasta 08-21-2012 08:11 PM

wow im speechless

Besbro 08-21-2012 09:36 PM

Looks awesome!!!

ST Focus 08-21-2012 09:47 PM

TheGlassMaker 08-21-2012 11:17 PM

Yea I agree vs. M3 is repair charges. Other than that the M3 would be better in everyway. I'm courious on the subi though. Yea the civic si don't have a chance.

swansong 08-22-2012 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by ranger_mclaren (Post 4316426)
I'm courious on the subi though.

I fully expect the ST to be able to outrun a WRX from a roll, and also outhandle it. Here's the numbers:

252 @ 5,500 rpm
270 @ 2,500 rpm
Curb Weight = ~3250

265 @ 6,000 rpm
244 @ 4,000 rpm
Curb Weight = ~3208

So the ST gives up 13 HP and about 50 lbs, but has 26 more "torques" (term stolen from Jeremy Clarkson). From what we've seen of the power curves, the torque arrives much earlier in the ST and stays flat throughout the powerband. And the ST won't have the drivetrain losses that the AWD WRX has. Many magazines have already commented on how neutral and awesome the ST handles, while I've heard lots of talk of the WRX liking to understeer.

So, IMO, ST > WRX.

RonMaiden 08-22-2012 10:02 AM

What is all this racing from a roll stuff,that was what the ricer boys did back in the late '90s since they couldn't get traction at the strip and racing from a roll takes zero skill.

Yes,it will be beat a WRX from a roll but it will need mods to beat one at the strip and we'll see the numbers from the road courses but I expect the ST to surprise some people but some early testers are complaining about the lack of a proper LSD. Should be hitting dealers next week.

I think if people drove both the ST and a WRX back to back on a road course we'd see some very different observations.

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