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Mods on the new ST

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#1 ·
Whats the 1st thing to mod on the new st? Who's going to do what? A tune, w/ more boost? Lower it? add a bbk? Exhaust- yeah. A torsen for sure. How 'bout turning the volume down on the sound tube & turning the exhaust note up? Anyone w/ any input? Come on guys you know you want to mod the new st.
 
#3 ·
first thing will be getting wheels i like

then hoping my buddy at SCT will be able to tune her

then... exhaust pending if i like how it sounds, since it exhaust was engineered to have a special sound...?

other than that... nothing till all the other underhood bolt ons and such pop out
 
#5 ·
Open air intake, short throw shifter, tint as soon as I can get 'er done.

I plan to see what Ford Racing will sell from the ST-R that fits well on the ST (hood pins/exhaust/carbon fiber hood).

In a silly way, I want to look at getting a shark mouth in plastic tape going around the front grill area (maybe with magnets if there is enough metal).
 
#6 ·
Shark mouth airbrushed on.



That sounds awesome. I'd airbrush it on for sure. All the R model parts are a given for sure. That reminds me of the shark like teeth on the pop up scoops on the '71-'72 Road Runners.
 
#9 ·
Who said the frpp's suspension is god?



Just asking you= Who said frpp suspension is god? I like my Eibach sportline system & I also like the H&R sport cup kit too.
 
#10 ·
what is usually acceptable and not void warranty? Exhaust, Intake and see how much Tom can tune out of the ST...
 
#11 ·
I wouldnt touch the ST till tuning software comes out , Question is will it come out

The M3 has the same issue , there is places that claim to tune the M3 but its a band-aid at best , there is no proper tuning for the M3 , the ST is basicly the M3 in a Focus , will be interesting to see what happens

Me , I am going to wait for the RS , if no tuning is out by then I wont buy it

Ford has the bility to release tuning for these cars , it would be worth millons if not billons to Ford to sell something like the SCT PRP to customers wanting to tune there cars , release the software by VIN # they Ford knows to void your warranty if still under warranty
I have always felt is stupid that Ford sells parts (all manufactors ) and dont have a way to tune the cars for the parts added

Tom
 
#12 ·
100% get that ^^^^^. As far as M3 are you refuring to the Mazda speed3 or BMW's M3? Sorry. I do know Bmw is a real bitch to tune. I know one place in Redmond, wa. thou. RS is the way to go.
 
#15 ·
Isn't the motor in the Focus different than the mzr in the mazda? Or do they use the bottom end of the mzr & uses a head w/ the exhaust manifold integral w/ the head, as the intake is to the ISB Cummins motor? I'm not familiar w/ the new D-tech motors. Or is this a new Ford designed motor? Could you tell us about it? Is the intake part of the head for faster turbo spool up? Or emmissions? Or both? And maybe someone can carve off the manifold & come up w/ a great equal lenght piece, & that opens up the door for different turbos too.
 
#19 ·
Don't the rumors point to a different motor for the RS version though, a 2.3L eco boost that's going in the Mustangs? Guess it would be the same motor family possibly so ECU tuning would be similar?
 
#20 ·
The ECU tuning is different for the VW FSI and TSI 2.0T engines. I don't know how similar the tuning would be for a 2.0T and 2.3T Foci. The 2.3T in the US is currently a wet dream at best. The lack of aftermarket support for the Focus is awful.

The best news for the Focus, EVER!, would be the Mustang having a related engine. That is where are the aftermarket Ford tuning dollars go. I also worry about tuning the 2.0T Ecoboost because Ford seems to think that the ST is taking the engine as far as it can reasonably go. The superchips ECU tuning in Europe takes the 200 HP version of the 2.0 Ecoboost to 240 HP. I haven't seen any ECU flashes for the Edge/Taurus/Explorer/Escape.
 
#24 ·
I love it....Ford does us a solid by bringing us the same ST as Europe has right down to the tires and I come in this thread only to find people bitching about it not being good enough and "can't wait for the RS [that will never come because unfortunately Focus owners are the same as the Escort owners a lot of us used to be; all talk until they get exactly what they want.....then no money.] !Thank you Ford for bringing us this car¡ Ill be honest, can't afford a new one but in a couple years I will buy one off-lease or dealer demo. Or if I got lucky like I did with my current "ST" SAP2, pick one up from repo for thousands under book. Just my 3 1/2¢....

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#25 ·
^^^ I don't think any of that is being said. We are saying that the motor will be a PITA to try and tune and we just wonder why a "tuner" specific car that is marketed towards a specific type of person would either be difficult for 3rd party people to tune or why Ford them selves don't provide tunes/updates for modifications.

I will be getting the ST next year around Aug. As far as the no Money... I bet the RS would have sold more units per year that the SVT did... SVT was only 50 more HP and had a price tag that some people thought was a bit much for that. The mind set has also shifted since the late 90's early 2000's on smaller cars, thus the Fiesta is back in the US market along with the smart car, Mini, the Scion FR-S coming out soon...). People in the USA said why spend 30k on a small car when I can get XXX which is bigger. Now people are in a better mind set for a "Hot Hatch" and are willing to spend the same price. You can get a Mustang GT for $32k and the Focus ST is around $28... for $4k more you could have the 5.0L V8 vs the Turbo 2.0L 4-cyl. The GT has 420 H, so for $4k more you get an extra 150HP and rear wheel drive? 10 years ago no one would have bought the 3 door focus, they would have gotten the mustang. Today is a different story.
 
#27 ·
My understanding of the 2.0 in the ST is that it is already maxed out (or nearly maxed out) on power as it stands. That is supposedly why the RS is getting a 2.3l...

Last I knew, though a relatively easy fix (and probably ironed out by now), is that the ST was popping the stock head gaskets...
 
#29 ·
seriously? i always buy off-lease.... let some other schmuck pay the depreciation.

And yes, in every single thread since the real ST was announced all I've seen is people saying "Wish it was the RS!" just like back in the day it was "Wish it was the Escort Cosworth!". Basically people are never happy with what they get. That's all Im saying.

Thanks for sticking words in my mouth dingleberry.


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#30 ·
And seriously, who right this minute actually has anything but monopoly money to plunk down $30k+ for a Focus? I've been on car boards since most of the members here were in preschool and its always the same.....people bitching and moan about cars and parts they want but as soon as companies come to the table with the goods there's no one coming up with the cash. Example: group buys. 'Nuff said. :)
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#31 ·
I have the money, and if the RS were here I would do it. But it's not, and I'm not going to waste $28k on a Focus that I can't mod on my own (due to it being at it's limits).

You seem to be the one with a bad attitude here, name calling and all. The problem with Ford, imho, is that they waited way to long to introduce a decent FI car in the compact market. How much money would they have made if one out of every three SRT-4's had been this ST?

Now, we're past 250hp. Ford has a bit of catch up to do. They're still 5 years behind. And I like the ST, it just isn't the car for me.
 
#37 ·
I have the money, and if the RS were here I would do it. But it's not, and I'm not going to waste $28k on a Focus that I can't mod on my own (due to it being at it's limits). The problem with Ford, imho, is that they waited way to long to introduce a decent FI car in the compact market. How much money would they have made if one out of every three SRT-4's had been this ST?

Now, we're past 250hp. Ford has a bit of catch up to do. They're still 5 years behind. And I like the ST, it just isn't the car for me.
I totalley agree w/ you as far as Ford is behind ^^^^ For some reason Ford has some great concepts & idea's & it takes them along time to hit production. Chryler for years seems to come out w/ products pretty quickly. Now that Chrysler & Fiat are one lets see what happens.
 
#33 ·
And you're right, I shouldn't have called the douchebag a name for putting words in my mouth. Its not about having the money, people who spend it wisely don't have that problem. ;)
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#34 ·
I went back through the posts, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you are the only one in this thread saying you can't afford one...[confused]

I guess I just don't understand what you're getting at with your posts.
 
#35 ·
How much money would they have made if one out of every three SRT-4's had been this ST?
if this ST feels anything like the SRT4 i will be smiling ear to ear
i loved driving the SRT4 around, i won lots of races, only down side buying it used i had to do a lot of work to keep it running, granted it was pushing it every day i drove it.

hopefully the ST is more reliable, and has a feel of even more power
 
#36 ·
Dart SRT-4



Wait to the new Dart SRT-4 comes out. I'm sure Ralph Gilles knows he has to bring at least 300 hp to the table.
 
#44 ·
My guess is that integrated manifold is the unknown. And people don't like unknowns. There were also rumors floating around that it was a KO3 turbo.
But info now points to a single scroll 6258.

Glad to hear your vote of confidence.
 
#41 ·
Mainly bacause Ford and other sources were reporting that the 2.0 was maxed out. Part of the reason they are designing a 2.3l for the possible RS instead of just bumping output on the 2.0.
 
#43 ·
Not at all because you don't believe the reports that the 2.0 is maxed out? I just don't understand the statement.

I agree that a 2.5l would be right for the RS, but (if they actually build it) I would buy it with the 2.3. Ford really needs to commit or stop waving possibilities in our face if they do or don't want some of the STI/EVO market.
 
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